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EOS R6 Mark II keeps focusing on the wrong people

bill1952
Contributor

I shoot sports and am having issues with the camera focusing on the wrong people (about half the time. With tracking set, the focusing point does not appear to be working at all.)

For example, last night I was trying to get a lacrosse player in focus, but the camera kept focusing on the near subjects. Even though I had the focusing point CLEARLY on the player's face, the focus kept jumping to faces nearest the camera.     

Here is how the AF is set: People, single-point, auto-eye detection. Back button focus, front button only releases shutter. My lens is an EF 70-200 f2.8 with an adaptor. 

BTW: If I enable front focus, the focusing point is active and functioning correctly; however, I lose all tracking capability.  

My main issue is, why can't I determine which subjects to focus on instead of the camera (which mostly gets it wrong). 

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wq9nsc
Elite
Elite

Lacrosse is a sport where other than posed shots, the protective gear is going to prevent clean eye detection in most situations so eye detect is not useful.  It is also one of the fastest moving sports with a lot of very fast action changes so I would go with single point with four point expansion AF with the selected part of the array around typical chest height.  Use AF servo and I believe that AF Case IV is the most appropriate but depending upon your shooting location you may find Case II useful if you have interfering subjects frequently crossing your field of view.

You should be shooting at a high enough shutter speed that image stabilization isn't needed so make sure that you don't have the lens stabilizer turned on, especially if you aren't using the LP-E6P version which maintains system voltage better under high current drain compared to the LP-E6NH.  As system current demand increases, a drop in system voltage reduces AF performance.  The slowdown with EF lenses is primarily based upon the response of the aperture assembly in the lens which needs to be able to step value with every frame.

To me, Lacrosse is the most difficult field sport to shoot however my camera setup (2 1DX III bodies with EF 400 and EF 70-200 f2.8 lens with aperture set wide open, manual exposure with auto ISO, typically AF case 4 normally single point AF with four point expansion) is the same that I use for soccer and football.  I have never been a fan of splitting the AF and release buttons since I always shoot sports with two bodies and sometimes three and often switch bodies during a single action sequence so the less places I have to worry about exact finger placement, the better.

I do make use of the handy array of AF stop buttons on my 200-400 1.4X and great white primes and I have the AF button on the back of the camera programmed for AF stop for those rare occasions when I want to freeze AF.

Rodger

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EOS 1DX M3, 1DX M2, 1DX, 5DS R, M6 Mark II, 1D M2, EOS 650 (film), many lenses, XF400 video

Waddizzle
Legend
Legend

Rodger wrote,

” To me, Lacrosse is the most difficult field sport to shoot however my camera setup (2 1DX III bodies with EF 400 and EF 70-200 f2.8 lens with aperture set wide open, manual exposure with auto ISO, typically AF case 4 normally single point AF with four point expansion) is the same that I use for soccer and football. “

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I also use M mode and ISO Auto. I also have the [Set] button configured for AEC and [AF-ON] programmed as [AF-OFF].  👍🏻

That’s about it for custom controls. It’s simple. It’s available on all advanced bodies, so they feel and work the same way.

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bill,

You asked, "How do I take it off tracking?"

If you hit your Menu button and go to the AF menu, it's on page 1.

Your manual explains the tracking system under, "Selecting the AF Area"

If you haven't done so yet, I 'd strongly encourage you to download your Manual in pdf format. Using a pdf reader like Adobe Acrobat, you can search for answers to specific questions using a keyword search... like Tracking.

Steve Thomas

Bulat
Apprentice

The answer is simple: the Canon R6 Mark II is garbage. They deliberately downgraded the functionality and autofocus performance of this camera.

For six months, I carried both cameras to my shoots (the R6 and the R6 Mark II). I photographed sports, basketball, marathons, red carpets, corporate events, children, and animals. In every scenario except still photography, the Canon R6 focuses better, more accurately, and produces 5–6 times (!!!!) fewer missed-focus shots.

Where I get around 10% failures with the R6, the R6 Mark II gives me 50–60% failed shots in a burst.

A typical situation: a sudden “unique” moment happens. You quickly raise the camera and fully press the shutter button. The burst starts.

With the R6: the first frame may miss, but every single frame after that is perfectly focused. Every single one. No failures at all.

With the R6 Mark II: the first frame misses, the second one hits, the third jumps to another area at the edge of the frame, the fifth and sixth miss again while trying to reacquire the main subject. In the end, out of a 20-frame burst, only about 2 shots are usable, while with the Canon R6 I get around 18 out of 20 sharp images, correctly focused on the original subject.

I will attach some of my work so you can understand my level of photography and the type of situations I shoot.

The only solution is to throw away the Canon R6 Mark II and keep using the R6. It is many times better.

The second option is to disable the tracking autofocus features and use the Canon R6 Mark II like an “improved” DSLR. In my opinion, that completely defeats the purpose.

What frustrates me even more is that everyone is trying to solve this problem through settings and configuration changes, while I strongly suspect that this limitation was intentionally created by Canon for marketing reasons. This is not something that can be fixed by changing autofocus settings.

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In absolute terms, the Mark II is actually faster than the Mark I. The problem is not the speed of the autofocus itself — the problem is that it is faster at switching to other subjects.

This is not a matter of simply getting used to the camera, because I use both cameras regularly and can clearly see how many emotional and unique moments I lose with the Mark II. My reaction as a photographer with 14 years of experience allows me to capture even a very fast moment as a sequence of 10–15 frames, even if some of them are slightly blurred.

For an event photographer who has covered several thousand shoots, most “unexpected” moments are actually familiar patterns: spontaneous laughter, surprises, jumps, falls, tricks, emotional reactions, and so on. I can capture these moments with the Mark II as well, but the problem is that I often do not get a useful sequence to choose from. I may have only 1–2 successful frames.

With the Mark I, I get the entire sequence of the moment. I can even move during the action and adjust my composition while shooting, because the autofocus stays firmly locked onto the original subject and does not jump away.

“ The answer is simple: the Canon R6 Mark II is garbage. They deliberately downgraded the functionality and autofocus performance of this camera. “

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What lens(es) are you using?

What frame rates are you using?

Your complaints are consistent with asking mote performance from lenses than what they are capable of doing.

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