EOS R50 Shutter Count?

[kionlua]

I recently bought my wife a refurbished R50 directly from Canon’s website. When I gave it to her she asked what the shutter count was? After some research online I tried uploading an image to a few websites that advertised providing the shutter count with photo data and the websites stated that the image didn’t have the data. I also tried downloading the EOS program from Canon’s website and couldn’t find it there either. Am I missing something?

[Tronhard]

Hi and welcome:

Given, as you have heard from my associates that a shutter count on its own is challenging to get and not necessarily an accurate indication of wear, and that you got the camera from the Canon Refurb site., then your best bet is to contact Canon's refurb site and give them the reference info: Invoice/Receipt #, and camera serial #, and ask about the condition and/or shutter count - I would expect them to have information like that on record.  If anyone can give you pertinent information, they are the ones to do so.  Note that if you get a refurb Canon camera from the Canon site, it comes with a warranty, so it should be good as new, and supported.

[ebiggs1]

"Shutter count on an MILC body is arguably meaningless."

Agreed at least any that are not provided by Canon itself. People still put high value on it, however, even though they don't confirm the mechanical state of the camera.

"More important is the fact that the camera has been refurbished. "

Bingo! 🙄 It is a refurb, it is not a new camera.

[John_SD]

"That’s correct but it’s the mechanical parts the ones that fail commonly."

You are worrying needlessly. Get out there and enjoy the hobby. Sure, if the camera "fails" in 25 or 30 years, you can come back to the forum and tell us "See! I told you idiots these things are prone to failure!"

[wq9nsc]

Image sensor "wear" due to operation is insignificant.  Damage can be immediate from exposure to excessive energy (laser, focused sunlight) but longer term degradation is about the same whether the sensor is being read or if it is sitting on a shelf getting bombarded by cosmic radiation.

With current Canon mirrorless offerings, it seems the camera is most likely to become inoperable and economically unfeasible to repair due to failure of controls/encoders or an overheated  main board.  Whether the market wants it or not, the days of keeping a camera and expecting to use it for a decade or more is rapidly going away.  Increased complexity combined with the goal of cost containment results in products less likely to age gracefully with their owner.

Rodger

[Waddizzle]

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Image sensor "wear" due to operation is insignificant.  Damage can be immediate from exposure to excessive energy (laser, focused sunlight) but longer term degradation is about the same whether the sensor is being read or if it is sitting on a shelf getting bombarded by cosmic radiation. “

My cinema cameras keep track of runtime.  You can call it up just as easily as you can call up remaining charge on a battery. 

[ibmsoft]

Try eosmsg  mirrorless version, which can accurately display mechanical and electronic shutters as well as the total number of shots taken.  eosmsg support EOS R EOS RP EOS R3 R5 R1 R5m2 R6 R7 R10 R6m2 R8 R50 R100.

[ibmsoft]

Try eosmsg mirrorless version, I just verified it with my camera.

[ebiggs1]

EOSMSG can provide an estimate of a camera's shutter count but it's not always accurate so it cannot be relied on to give any meaningful number.

[ebiggs1]

Re-read this.................

"With current Canon mirrorless offerings, it seems the camera is most likely to become inoperable and economically unfeasible to repair due to failure of controls/encoders or an overheated  main board.  Whether the market wants it or not, the days of keeping a camera and expecting to use it for a decade or more is rapidly going away.  Increased complexity combined with the goal of cost containment results in products less likely to age gracefully with their owner."

[Peter]

I decoded the exposure count for R50 about two weeks ago. You can try again with Exiftool and raw files from your wife's camera.

This will read the total count, mechanical and electronic shutter mode, so it is not a good measurent of the shutter life.

My R6 reports total count and mechanical count. It also reports the time it has been powered on. I don't know if R50 also saves that.

Cosmic rays are one source of sensor degradation. If the camera has been in space or has been in a plane at cruising altitude during long time you may have more bad pixels than a camera that has been kept on the Earth's surface. R50 has a sensor mapping feature to deal with this.