10-02-2018 11:04 PM
What do you all do with your CR2s after you've worked them, applied edits and so forth and finally created your JPGs that you're satisfied with? For all practical purposes, let's say that you are done with your CR2 files. I've been keeping my CR2 files after I work them, thinking that in the future, I may want to rework them, but they take up a lot of space. I have been sorely tempted to start deleting those CR2s that I feel confident I am done with, which would free up a lot of space. Do you delete yours?
10-03-2018 03:49 AM
I only delete the bad ones, unfocused etc. Bought a new 8TB harddrive.
10-03-2018 09:50 AM - edited 10-03-2018 09:50 AM
JohnSD,
+1 to what Peter does... "just the bad ones" I have a QNAP NAS 12TB of storage. Sure, its a smll invenstment, but if you look at it over the course of several years and how it keeps your memories safe, its a no brainer. Small priice to pay in the long run.
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10-03-2018 11:48 AM - edited 10-03-2018 04:42 PM
@shadowsports wrote:JohnSD,
+1 to what Peter does... "just the bad ones" I have a QNAP NAS 12TB of storage. Sure, its a smll invenstment, but if you look at it over the course of several years and how it keeps your memories safe, its a no brainer. Small priice to pay in the long run.
Keeps your memories safe? You mean until the moment the cheap retail drive fails and your memories go "bye-bye"? And it's not a matter of if, but when. Go with Backblaze or something similar instead of trusting cheap retail China junk.
The really good CR2s should be worked, converted, printed and made conveniently available to loved ones to whom it would matter. Those CR2s I can see hanging on to, if one is so inclined, but I am finding that once converted and backed up to a reliable medium, what is the point of saving the original CR2? That is what hoarders would do, and it makes little sense. Now, if one is a pro with paying clients, I can see saving the CR2s. But for the average enthusiast who obsessively saves every crappy CR2 he has? Doesn't make sense. Just keep the really good ones. That would eliminate about 95 percent of the rest.
I am increasingly avoiding the hoarder mentality and the associated view that all personal CR2s are like priceless artifacts that must be saved. I regularly delete mine, other than the ones I've worked and converted. YMMV.
EDIT: I might add that while it is easy to delete CR2s that are poorly shot to begin with, the real issue is what to do with the CR2s that have been worked and converted. I am leaning toward deleting almost all of them. After working and converting them to the point of satisfaction, what is the point of saving the RAW images? They take up a lot of space.
10-04-2018 09:01 AM - edited 10-04-2018 09:04 AM
@John_SD wrote:
@shadowsports wrote:JohnSD,
+1 to what Peter does... "just the bad ones" I have a QNAP NAS 12TB of storage. Sure, its a smll invenstment, but if you look at it over the course of several years and how it keeps your memories safe, its a no brainer. Small priice to pay in the long run.
Keeps your memories safe? You mean until the moment the cheap retail drive fails and your memories go "bye-bye"? And it's not a matter of if, but when. Go with Backblaze or something similar instead of trusting cheap retail China junk.
The really good CR2s should be worked, converted, printed and made conveniently available to loved ones to whom it would matter. Those CR2s I can see hanging on to, if one is so inclined, but I am finding that once converted and backed up to a reliable medium, what is the point of saving the original CR2? That is what hoarders would do, and it makes little sense. Now, if one is a pro with paying clients, I can see saving the CR2s. But for the average enthusiast who obsessively saves every crappy CR2 he has? Doesn't make sense. Just keep the really good ones. That would eliminate about 95 percent of the rest.
I am increasingly avoiding the hoarder mentality and the associated view that all personal CR2s are like priceless artifacts that must be saved. I regularly delete mine, other than the ones I've worked and converted. YMMV.
EDIT: I might add that while it is easy to delete CR2s that are poorly shot to begin with, the real issue is what to do with the CR2s that have been worked and converted. I am leaning toward deleting almost all of them. After working and converting them to the point of satisfaction, what is the point of saving the RAW images? They take up a lot of space.
JohnSD,
Very funny. I already know all hardware fails... which is why have redundancy, multiple back ups, replication and on site off site storage... The "ill equipped and unprepared" that’s not me. When hardware fails, its nothing more than a minor inconvenience... I have spare disks sitting around that I can hot swap into the environment. Bet you can guess what I do for a living. You want me to go on? I don't think I need to.
~Rick
Bay Area - CA
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10-03-2018 06:39 PM
@John_SD wrote:What do you all do with your CR2s after you've worked them, applied edits and so forth and finally created your JPGs that you're satisfied with? For all practical purposes, let's say that you are done with your CR2 files. I've been keeping my CR2 files after I work them, thinking that in the future, I may want to rework them, but they take up a lot of space. I have been sorely tempted to start deleting those CR2s that I feel confident I am done with, which would free up a lot of space. Do you delete yours?
Save the CR2s; they're where the original information is. If you're going to delete anything, delete the JPEGs. Just make sure you have at least two levels of backup, in addition to the original.
The space the CR2s take is irrelevant. The last time I bought an 8TB hard drive, it cost about $200.
10-04-2018 12:27 PM
"The space the CR2s take is irrelevant. The last time I bought an 8TB hard drive, it cost about $200."
This has been my philosophy. However lately I have questioned myself if it is rational? 6 drives now! Close to 400,000 photos (just the last 17 years). Who will ever go through them or even want to? The ones that are relevant to me or my family are already out and into their hands. My clients already have their media whether a print or digital file. I am getting closer to pulling the plug on those drives. I used to guarantee photos for 6 months. Perhaps after the 6 month date they all get the file 13 treatment.
10-04-2018 01:00 PM
@ebiggs1 wrote:"The space the CR2s take is irrelevant. The last time I bought an 8TB hard drive, it cost about $200."
This has been my philosophy. However lately I have questioned myself if it is rational? 6 drives now! Close to 400,000 photos (just the last 17 years). Who will ever go through them or even want to? The ones that are relevant to me or my family are already out and into their hands. My clients already have their media whether a print or digital file. I am getting closer to pulling the plug on those drives. I used to guarantee photos for 6 months. Perhaps after the 6 month date they all get the file 13 treatment.
Your reasoning is wise and sound, IMO. As a longtime pro with many clients, you likely had legitimate business reasons to retain those RAW files and whatnot over the years. But as you clearly observe, perhaps now a reasonable "expiration date" of 6 months would serve to eliminate those images that have long since served their purpose.
As a mere amateur and enthusiast I have no such reason to retain hundreds of thousands of images, ever. I love photography, but I am my own worst critic, and even though I delete early and often, I am stil surprised at how much space my existing CR2s take up. I do not want to reach a point of becomming a hoarder like some of the guys. That is a serious condition that requires professional care. Thus, I am going thru my CR2s manually and deleting those that have been converted to my satisfaction. That approach works for me.
10-04-2018 01:04 PM
" I have no such reason to retain hundreds of thousands of images..."
Ask yourself, who will want them and who will go through and sort them later on. Be honest with yourself. In my case I don't see anybody. Maybe its sad but.....................
10-04-2018 01:10 PM
@ebiggs1 wrote:" I have no such reason to retain hundreds of thousands of images..."
Ask yourself, who will want them and who will go through and sort them later on. Be honest with yourself. In my case I don't see anybody. Maybe its sad but.....................
It is not sad at all. One can have many loving family members and friends, but perhaps none would have the time or technical wherewithal to access and evaluate hundreds of thousands of client and personal photos. As you say, the photos that would be most meaningful to your family have been passed on to them already. That is a step that too many negliect, but you have seen to it. Kudos!
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