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Re: how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 under mac ios Sierra

Thanks. 

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Re: how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 under mac ios Sierra


ninhnguyen2017 wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for your response. I am using photoshop cc with canon print studio. The print came out not the same as my screen.  I also print same image with epson xp800 and epson 9600 and get the same print out as my screen.

The epson printer driver allowed color mangament to turn off. So please show how to turn off the canon pixma pro 100 color management.

Thanks for your help

 

Ninh


I own an X-Rite ColorMunki and I profiled my printer (and my monitor)... but one thing to be careful of is the color-cast of any light in the room when you evaluate your prints.

 

My office lamps are "warm white" (which means they have a yellow/orange color cast).  I _also_ have a special lamp that is "daylight" balanced light and if I don't evaluate the prints under the correct light, it'll look like my Pro 10 botched the color (it got the color correct... it's just the illusion created by the lighting.)

 

 

That aside... how you disable in-printer color management depends on what software you use to print.  Normally if you use Print Studio Pro then it's controlled via the "Print Settings" tab.  If yo use Lightroom to print, then it's controlled in the "Print" module and at the bottom of the right margin in the "Print Job" section, there's a "Color Management" section.

 

You have to have _some_ type of color management.  If you do not pick "In Printer" (or "Automatic" which basically means the printer deals with it) then you need a color profile.

 

If you installed Canon's software, then they install color profile for their Canon ink with all of their various Canon papers.  That's great if you are using their inks & papers... but If you run any other paper or any other ink than those profiles aren't valid.  You would need a way to build a color profile for your printer/ink/paper combination.

 

Tim Campbell
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Re: how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 under mac ios Sierra

Hi Ninh. Print Studio Pro should handle color management control for you behind the scenes. If you are on a Mac and choose the application to control color then color management should be turned off automatically. If you are on a PC and choose the application to control color then you need to turn offf color management in the driver yourself. What operating system are you using.
John Hoffman
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Re: how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 under mac ios Sierra

Hi John,

I used Mac Sierra High OS.  Even with Canon Print Studio, the print is still not the same as the display.

I will use the refill ink for my pro 100 printer and need to profile the ink. I owned the Spyder5Pro and SpyderPrint but do not know how to disable the color management of the pixma pro 100 when print the calibration strip.

I have not find any one include Canon people to show how to turn it off for Mac Sierra.

It seems to me this is too hard for Canon to fix their driver for Mac.

Thanks for your response.

 

Ninh

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Re: how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 under mac ios Sierra

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Hi Ninh. Take a look at Message 6 above. If you select Photoshop manage color you need to select an ICC profile for the paper and color management is turn off and grayed out so you cannot change it. If you want printer to manage color then the Canon color is selected. It’s not grayed out so you can choose ColorSync. Same happens in Lightroom. The Canon driver for macOS does it automatically. 

 

See this video from DataColor. 

 

http://www.datacolor.com/photography-design/support-old/customer-support/learn-more-about-colormanag...

John Hoffman
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Re: how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 under mac ios Sierra

I am really struggling with switching off color management using macOS, using Indesign CC and Pixma Pro 10S

 

Yes, I agree that Photoshop and Lightroom switch off color management when passing through to the driver. Neither colorsync nor Canon Color Matching come up as options (it's all greyed out)  - and color management works.

 

But, when using Indesign, or indeed color profiling software, when one goes to the color management dialogue in the canon driver, all the options remain available.

 

(NB in Indesign in the print dialogue is "Let Indesign determine colors" is being chosen - in fact the option "let printer determine colors" doesn't appear)

 

So I need to find a way to FORCE the macOS canon driver to switch off color management when printing from Indesign - but I can't! Hence the print is getting double color managed...

 

The same RGB photo when printed in Photoshop is color managed and prints accurately. But when that photo is imported into Indesign and printed, the colors from Indesign are totally off. Both applications show the photo on the screen in the right way.

 

Help!!!

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Re: how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 under mac ios Sierra

I don’t use that software, so not sure if this will help

 

https://helpx.adobe.com/indesign/using/color.html

John Hoffman
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Re: how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 under mac ios Sierra

Thank you! Yes.

And indeed one of the steps it says is : “switch off color management in the printer driver”

Hence my question.

Does anybody know how to do this on a mac?
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Re: how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 under mac ios Sierra

Since when LR switches of color management it selects ColorSync and prevents user choice I would guess you would select ColorSync and then choose paper ICC profile in OneDesign.
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Re: how to disable color management of the pixma pro 100 under mac ios Sierra

Yes, I hoped that would be the case.

 

Unfortunately not - Colorsync seems to apply additional color management. Have tried with automatic profile and paper profile.

 

So the challenge remains how to switch off color management entirely, as I believe one can do in the windows based version of the driver, given the host printing software isn't doing it. Strange, given that Adobe manages to achieve this with Photoshop and Lightroom, but doesn't with Indesign...

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