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SX280 - battery life shooting video

factoryguy
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UPDATED May 5:

 

I apologize to the forum for mixing two different problems.  They are unrelated.

 

Problem #1:  User error.  I thought I was using a class 6 SD card but I was wrong. The yellow "!" indicates a pathologically slow card.  Upgrading to a class 10 resolved this problem.

 

Problem #2: UNRESOLVED.  Red battery indicator comes on prematurely.  On a fresh charge, it'll turn red after recording for a couple of minutes.  On a partially drained battery, it turns red immediately upon entering movie mode or pressing the record button.  Turn the camera off and then right back on in "still" mode and it shows full charge and works fine ... until trying to shoot video.  I have not precisely measured recording times but it'll record for at least 20 (maybe 30?) minutes while flashing red.

 

 

 

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I know Gordon Laing made it clear that he'll get around to revisiting the sx280 when he has time. Unlike people who actually bought the camera to use/keep, he has no interest in whether it works or not other than documenting it fairly. At the same time, Canon has a vested interest in getting this guy a camera that may or may not be fixed - more like rigged to make sure it passes Gordon's tests with flying colors. Whatever firmware they put in his camera - now knowing he's a professional reviewer does speak loudly or clearly, except for Canon's ability to produce one working camera for one person. What speaks loudly and clearly to me is dozens of people on this page reporting that their camera has suddenly started working as advertised. To date, not one camera has been successfully returned for repair. Please, someone, correct me if I'm wrong on that.

My bottom line: Would anyone here today suggest the sx280 to a friend or buy it for a relative as a gift? I seriously doubt it. And Canon has done little to answer for or explain this debacle to customers.

Where are you seeing Laings updates?

UnionStation, I think you missed mcasale16's message, mldde of page 30.

 

Plus, I don't see why we ought to doubt Gordon Laing's word:

 

May 23, 2013

I'm very curious too, but again it could be a couple of weeks before I can re-evaluate this...

 

June 3, 2013

They collected mine last week and said they'd have it back by the end of this week, so I hope to test it then.

 

Suggesting a consipiracy theory that Canon will do some unique trick for his camera is...well, a conspiracy theory.

 

nuff said.

 

Paul, who's neither a glass_half_full nor a glass_half_empty guy

 

 

I think you might've misunderstood me, pawl. Professional reviewers often buy devices off the shelf to guarantee they are getting exactly what customers get. Companies frequently give known reviewers prototype units with firmware/software/hardware that never makes its way to consumers. There' no guarantee the firmware Gordon gets will be the same anyone else will see. That's no conspiracy theory - that's fact.

My statement that it may take Gordon some time to revisit the camera was based on that earlier posting, part of which you reposted: Gordon said: "I'm very curious too, but again it could be a couple of weeks before I can re-evaluate this." He's already reviewed this camera and likely has plenty of other work to do before giving a repaired camera a second chance.

Hey Union: Not sure I understand why someone who long ago returned their camera and moved on would insist on lingering here and spouting off about the inadequacies of Canon (glaringly apparent already) to others. I mean, it's a free country, but sheesh. Most people would just move on. 

 

 


@UnionStation wrote:
I think you might've misunderstood me, pawl. Professional reviewers often buy devices off the shelf to guarantee they are getting exactly what customers get. Companies frequently give known reviewers prototype units with firmware/software/hardware that never makes its way to consumers. There' no guarantee the firmware Gordon gets will be the same anyone else will see. That's no conspiracy theory - that's fact.

My statement that it may take Gordon some time to revisit the camera was based on that earlier posting, part of which you reposted: Gordon said: "I'm very curious too, but again it could be a couple of weeks before I can re-evaluate this." He's already reviewed this camera and likely has plenty of other work to do before giving a repaired camera a second chance.

I admit I had no idea that such a thing was common, UnionStation. I can understand why it would benefit a company in_the_short_term to provide [in this case] a camera that is non-stock and somehow better than what the public will purchase, but doesn't that invite trouble with consumers down the line? Seems like a bad idea, or at least not very farsighted. But, like I said, I'm not in this business, so my knowledge is **bleep** close to zip. And you'd be quick to point out that Canon is not too bright in their CR department.

 

I take issue, however, when you use the term "rigged" and suggest that Laing is somehow a willing knowing party (assuming the man is as knowledgable of this scheming as you). By deduction, you're suggesting Laing is a dupe? Is Canon buttering his bread?

 

And besides, Gordon Laing does have a vested interest in this, since (as you said) his interest in (read, reputation as a reviewer relies on) fair and thorough reporting. I'm sure he understands it would be remiss of him to drop the ball on this one. I'd not suggest otherwise, not knowing the man personally.

 

 

Since you asked, RCJ, I returned one of the two sx280s I purchased. I am about to return the second. And I'm assuming your question is rhetorical, because you've been around long enough to see my many postings on this topic and my motivations for keeping up the heat on Canon. Sorry you don't appreciate my input, but I "insist on lingering here and spouting off" because someone out there might benefit from a view other than "those wonderful people at Canon care about us and are working hard 24/7 to get us a fix."

The arrogant, inept way Canon treated me when I was among the first to report this problem, the two faulty cameras I purchased with my hard-earned money, and the First Amendment to the United States Constitution should be justification enough. But I'll settle for knowing that I've warned a few fellow consumers away from the sx280 and helped convince others to return their cameras before it's too late. Instead of criticizing fellow customers, I'm focused on hammering away at Canon's good name until they cry uncle. If more of us did that instead of questioning each others' right to comment, Canon and other companies would think twice about treating customers so shabbily.


@pawl wrote:

@UnionStation wrote:
I think you might've misunderstood me, pawl. Professional reviewers often buy devices off the shelf to guarantee they are getting exactly what customers get. Companies frequently give known reviewers prototype units with firmware/software/hardware that never makes its way to consumers. There' no guarantee the firmware Gordon gets will be the same anyone else will see. That's no conspiracy theory - that's fact.

My statement that it may take Gordon some time to revisit the camera was based on that earlier posting, part of which you reposted: Gordon said: "I'm very curious too, but again it could be a couple of weeks before I can re-evaluate this." He's already reviewed this camera and likely has plenty of other work to do before giving a repaired camera a second chance.

I admit I had no idea that such a thing was common, UnionStation. I can understand why it would benefit a company in_the_short_term to provide [in this case] a camera that is non-stock and somehow better than what the public will purchase, but doesn't that invite trouble with consumers down the line? Seems like a bad idea, or at least not very farsighted. But, like I said, I'm not in this business, so my knowledge is **bleep** close to zip. And you'd be quick to point out that Canon is not too bright in their CR department.

 

I take issue, however, when you use the term "rigged" and suggest that Laing is somehow a willing knowing party (assuming the man is as knowledgable of this scheming as you). By deduction, you're suggesting Laing is a dupe? Is Canon buttering his bread?

 

And besides, Gordon Laing does have a vested interest in this, since (as you said) his interest in (read, reputation as a reviewer relies on) fair and thorough reporting. I'm sure he understands it would be remiss of him to drop the ball on this one. I'd not suggest otherwise, not knowing the man personally.

 

 


Gordon did state  that the camera he reviewed was one that he purchased, not one that was provided by Canon. He has also stated that he is suspicious that the fix only involves a firmware update in that he recorded the camera serial number before it was sent in to make sure he got the same serial number camera returned.  He also stated in his updated review that "Canon contacted me following my test and claims it has fixed the battery issue with a firmware update which should already be applied to all new samples." The vendors must have had quite an inventory of bad cameras since people who have purchased a sx280 since the review and posted here got another bad sx280.

 

Personally, I have a prepaid return to return to the vendor and also a prepaid label to return to Canon in Irvine, CA. If no one posts anything positive concerning repair/replacement of their defective camera in the next 3-4 days, it will be returned to the vendor and Canon can find other valued customers to extend their award winning service.

Pawl - please reread my note. I never suggested Gordon was in cahoots with Canon or being duped or anything of the sort. I said there's no way for him to know whether the camera he gets back is "rigged" to, say, just turn off all the warnings - something that could fry the camera after 2 months of daily use. Who knows? It
Could be an sx280 body with some modified hardware. How could he tell? Consumer Reports buys off the shelf for a reason. Often you'll see reviewers of new products clearly state they're test models provided by the company - or a pre-production model. There's a reason reviewers specifically state that. And, without getting into too much detail, I do know something about this topic. I don't know Gordon, but he seems like a totally fair and professional guy. I would not suggest otherwise
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