Really unhappy with EOS R6. Curious to know if others have similar Wi-Fi, IBIS, color issues.

[johninbigd]

I previously had a 60D, a 6D, then an R. I recently upgraded to the R6 and have mostly been unhappy with the expenditure. I do love the improved eye AF. That makes shooting a breeze! I also love the AF joystick and and the return of the old style control wheel. So nice! But.....the problems.

In order of mild to worst:

1. Horrible wifi connectivity problems

2. IBIS doesn't seem to work with any of my lenses (Tamron and Sigma, through an adapter)

3. Colors are horrible and photos lack contrast, creating a flat smeared sort of look that is really unpleasant

I process my photos in Lightroom Classic and have the most recent version available. I had zero problems with the 60D, 6D and R. Photos from any of those bodies look fantastic, especially the R. Colors are vibrant, skin tones are gorgeous, and there is plenty of contrast. I've done two shoots with the R6 and I absolutely hate the results. So much so that I'm already considering selling it. It's too late to return it, unfortunately. 

Have any of you run into these issues, particularly with the color and contrast?

[Waddizzle]

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@johninbigd wrote:

I'm finding it difficult to demonstrate the problem since the problem seems to be worst in Lightroom. But you can't see what I see in Lightroom. I'm finding that opening these images look pretty good when I open them in DPP, and look best after setting the picture style to Faithful and white balance to Auto.

I'll drop another raw file into that folder from the shoot at my place. Those images look pretty bad when opened directly in Lightroom. Even using the colorfidelity profiles, of which only the neutral and fine detail profiles work. The others have different hues in the midtones and shadows (too much magenta in midtones, way too much green in the shadows.)

I really appreciate everyone's help! 

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You do not have a Canon camera problem, or a Canon software problem.  Nope.  You have an Adobe Lightroom problem.

[johninbigd]

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@Waddizzle wrote:

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@johninbigd wrote:

I'm finding it difficult to demonstrate the problem since the problem seems to be worst in Lightroom. But you can't see what I see in Lightroom. I'm finding that opening these images look pretty good when I open them in DPP, and look best after setting the picture style to Faithful and white balance to Auto.

I'll drop another raw file into that folder from the shoot at my place. Those images look pretty bad when opened directly in Lightroom. Even using the colorfidelity profiles, of which only the neutral and fine detail profiles work. The others have different hues in the midtones and shadows (too much magenta in midtones, way too much green in the shadows.)

I really appreciate everyone's help! 

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You do not have a Canon camera problem, or a Canon software problem.  Nope.  You have an Adobe Lightroom problem.

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That's very likely at this point, although the images don't look that great in Capture One or DxO Photolab 4, either. They do look best in Photolab, but still not quite right and definitely not the Canon look I'm used to with my other cameras. The best results I've achieved so far have been loading the raw files into Canon DPP, setting the picture style to Faithful, then saving that as a TIFF and loading that into some other app. But even then, I'm not getting results that meet my standards. I've found a few others who have similar issues, but I'm not having much luck figuring out the best way to resolve it. I don't want to start shooting in JPEG.

[Ben2020]

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@Waddizzle wrote:

You do not have a Canon camera problem, or a Canon software problem.  Nope.  You have an Adobe Lightroom problem.

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users just need a good color

if canon can't than I will choose a normal camera,  I don't wanna dance with profiles for my money.

[johninbigd]

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@Ben2020 wrote:

Hello !

I have 1Dx, EOS-R, I rented eos r5 and r6.

And i have the same problem with colors on this new cameras. Default LR profiles very bad,

Only one solution at the moment is to use DPP->TIFF->LR

P.S. Amazing situation at the moment, you buy a camera (1Dx III, R5, R6) and Adobe software  for xxxx $$$ and you get a **bleep**ty color as a result 

Also I liked the colors from 1dx III more, then R6 and R5

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Yeah, I totally understand. The quality of results I was getting with the R is many times better than what I get from the R6. It's too late to return it for full price, but I'm going to do it anyway and just take the loss on it. I love shooting with the R6, but the shooting advantages do not outweight the fact that I can't get the results that meet my standards. 

What's interesting about your comment is that the R6 and 1DXiii allegedly have the same sensor. That's why I was so comfortable buying the R6 without trying it out first. The 1DXiii sensor is superb. But Canon has done something to the color in the R6. It is not the same end result as the 1DXiii even if the sensors are similar.

[Waddizzle]

Like I said, the camera is not the problem.  I'll bet you lunch that just as soon as you return it, Adobe fixes Lightroom.

[johninbigd]

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@Waddizzle wrote:

Like I said, the camera is not the problem.  I'll bet you lunch that just as soon as you return it, Adobe fixes Lightroom.

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That would be exactly my luck!  lol  But I have an update. I created a custom preset with the following settings that are getting me results I like:

* Colorfidelty R6 profile Fine Detail V1

* Color Temp 5500, hue +10 toward magenta (these shots were with flash, but WB set to Flash is far too yellow)

* Saturation -7

* Shadows raised a bit (around +10 to +20, depending)

* Highlights brought way down

* Some extremely minor Color toning

The first three steps are the big ones. The other Color Fidelity profiles do not look good and I've contacted the creator with some examples of what's going wrong. But the Fine Detail profile makes a big difference. There are no Adobe profiles that work at all. I definitely have to learn how to handle the highlights and shadows with this beast. They react very differently than the R.

I appreciate everyone hanging with me while I worked through this process.

[Ben2020]

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@Waddizzle wrote:

Like I said, the camera is not the problem.  I'll bet you lunch that just as soon as you return it, Adobe fixes Lightroom.

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eos rp release date March 14, 2019

1DX III relesase date  January 2020.

still no camera matching profiles for these cameras

[jrhoffman75]

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@Ben2020 wrote:

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@Waddizzle wrote:

Like I said, the camera is not the problem.  I'll bet you lunch that just as soon as you return it, Adobe fixes Lightroom.

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eos rp release date March 14, 2019

1DX III relesase date  January 2020.

still no camera matching profiles for these cameras

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There is some sort of an issue between Adobe and Canon. There are no camera matching profiles for any .CR3 file format cameras except the EOS R and that is attributed to the fact that it uses the same sensor as the 5D Mark IV.

[Ben2020]

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@jrhoffman75 wrote:

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There is some sort of an issue between Adobe and Canon. There are no camera matching profiles for any .CR3 file format cameras except the EOS R and that is attributed to the fact that it uses the same sensor as the 5D Mark IV.

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users pay for that issue

[Waddizzle]

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@jrhoffman75 wrote:

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@Ben2020 wrote:

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@Waddizzle wrote:

Like I said, the camera is not the problem.  I'll bet you lunch that just as soon as you return it, Adobe fixes Lightroom.

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eos rp release date March 14, 2019

1DX III relesase date  January 2020.

still no camera matching profiles for these cameras

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There is some sort of an issue between Adobe and Canon. There are no camera matching profiles for any .CR3 file format cameras except the EOS R and that is attributed to the fact that it uses the same sensor as the 5D Mark IV.

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What about the 90D?  I have not heard any of theses types of complaints with the 90D?  People seem to use LR just fine.