Really unhappy with EOS R6. Curious to know if others have similar Wi-Fi, IBIS, color issues.

[johninbigd]

I previously had a 60D, a 6D, then an R. I recently upgraded to the R6 and have mostly been unhappy with the expenditure. I do love the improved eye AF. That makes shooting a breeze! I also love the AF joystick and and the return of the old style control wheel. So nice! But.....the problems.

In order of mild to worst:

1. Horrible wifi connectivity problems

2. IBIS doesn't seem to work with any of my lenses (Tamron and Sigma, through an adapter)

3. Colors are horrible and photos lack contrast, creating a flat smeared sort of look that is really unpleasant

I process my photos in Lightroom Classic and have the most recent version available. I had zero problems with the 60D, 6D and R. Photos from any of those bodies look fantastic, especially the R. Colors are vibrant, skin tones are gorgeous, and there is plenty of contrast. I've done two shoots with the R6 and I absolutely hate the results. So much so that I'm already considering selling it. It's too late to return it, unfortunately. 

Have any of you run into these issues, particularly with the color and contrast?

[johninbigd]

Here is the first set of examples from my most recent shoot on Saturday. I will mention that I'm starting to suspect that the flash at that studio had it's color temp set to something non-standard. If I remember right, those are adjustable. I think this because when setting the white balance to Flash, it's way too yellow. But setting it to Auto - White Priority in DPP, it looks far more natural.  Here is the folder:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qxen5ynufnfdzac/AACzXzyt8FrS4zyESPW5QO77a?dl=0

It contains the original raw file as well as a TIFF with the default settings and a TIFF with the white balance set to Auto and the picture style set to Faithful. I also just very slightly nudged the hue to the magenta side. Again, i think in hindsight this may be because the flash was at a non-standard color temp. Regardless, using the adjusted TIFF as a starting point, I can get a nice edit of that shot, I think.

I have another set of photos from my first shoot with the R6 that demonstrate my problem more clearly. Those were shot at my own place with my own strobe, a Godox AD200 Pro. I'll work on getting good examples of that shoot next. 

[johninbigd]

I'm finding it difficult to demonstrate the problem since the problem seems to be worst in Lightroom. But you can't see what I see in Lightroom. I'm finding that opening these images look pretty good when I open them in DPP, and look best after setting the picture style to Faithful and white balance to Auto.

I'll drop another raw file into that folder from the shoot at my place. Those images look pretty bad when opened directly in Lightroom. Even using the colorfidelity profiles, of which only the neutral and fine detail profiles work. The others have different hues in the midtones and shadows (too much magenta in midtones, way too much green in the shadows.)

As painful as it may be, selecting the images I want to edit and then converting them to TIFF in DPP with picture style set to faithful might be the best way forward for the time being. Or I just need to create a preset of my own that closely approximates what DPP is giving me.

I will also say, regarding the raw file I just added, I know that I had the lighting set incorrectly, resulting in a bit of a flat look and some hot spots. I think that contributes to my impression of this issue and perhaps made it seem worse than it actually is.

I really appreciate everyone's help! 

[johninbigd]

I just added an edited JPEG. That's the best I can get and I'm really not happy with it. I don't know how to describe it, but it looks off, especially the highlights. It's almost the same vibe that bad HDR gives me. I'm going to add a few JPEGs from previous photoshoots with the EOS R for comparison. They all look vastly better in clarity and colors. I also noticed that the "hot spots" from the flash look worse in the R6 than with the R. I don't understand it because from all reports, the R6 has the better sensor and better dynamic range. 

EDIT: Added several more older shots from the EOS R. In comparison, every shot I've taken with the R6 has less realistic colors and a flatter look, which honestly doesn't make sense to me.

[shawnphoto]

"It's the cameras fault!" 

Go read a book on photography and stop wasting peoples time.

[johninbigd]

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@shawnphoto wrote:

"It's the cameras fault!" 

Go read a book on photography and stop wasting peoples time.

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I'm not blaming the camera. I'm simply trying to find a solution to a problem. If you think I need to "read a book on photography", go look at the sample images I just shared and see if you think I don't at least know a little about photography.

[Canonoli]

lol you don't have a clue what you're doing.

[johninbigd]

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@Canonoli wrote:

lol you don't have a clue what you're doing.

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That's totaly possible. I've only been doing this for about 12 years now. I'm not a beginner, but I don't claim to be a pro, either. That's why I was hoping to find someone with more experience who might be able to help me figure out this problem.

[shawnphoto]

@johninbigd wrote:

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That's totaly possible. I've only been doing this for about 12 years now. I'm not a beginner, but I don't claim to be a pro, either. That's why I was hoping to find someone with more experience who might be able to help me figure out this problem.

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"PEBKAC"

[johninbigd]

Entirely possible, but I'm finding other people with the same issue. For exampe:

https://youtu.be/KWV2C3UsoYs?t=89

Notice when he compares similar shots from the R5 and R6. The R6 simultaneously has areas that are too red and others that are too green. That is very difficult to correct with just white balance.

There are also people in this thread talking about the same problem:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4521342

I know you enjoy saying that it's my error, and it very well could be, but honestly take a look at the photos I posted and tell me you can't see the difference. My photos shot with the R have better colors, better skin tones, more natural contrast, and somehow have more depth and clarity. 

If the problem is me, that's great because that means there is a solution to the problem, whether it's settings or a change in procedures. 

[Ben2020]

Hello !

I have 1Dx, EOS-R, I rented eos r5 and r6.

And i have the same problem with colors on this new cameras. Default LR profiles very bad,

Only one solution at the moment is to use DPP->TIFF->LR

P.S. Amazing situation at the moment, you buy a camera (1Dx III, R5, R6) and Adobe software  for xxxx $$$ and you get a **bleep**ty color as a result 

Also I liked the colors from 1dx III more, then R6 and R5