Possible 80D Pink Photos Solution

[Horsefeathers]

Greetings All!

This is the solution post that might help someone with a similar issue. My 80D Canon was purchased as a bundle in 2016 with two Canon lenses at Costco. It has always taken photos especially in the mountains with a pink hue using telephoto. The Canon repair shop in Costa Mesa reset the camera, flashed the chip and replaced the lens to no avail. Here is the latest info. Hope this helps someone.

I took the Camera last week to Samys Camera in Costa Mesa and spoke to the manager repair expert Barry. Very nice fellow. He explained that setting the Camera to a true white priority as was suggested by a luminary on this site while in the green A+ dial mode is not really possible. That's where Canon had set the white priority. Barry explained to me that here will be ambiance added that can add hues from surrounding objects to white areas for example and other surfaces. Barry changed the dial from the green A+ to the white P and set to AWB Auto White Balance here. The photos he took in the parking lot to me still look pinkish. Let me know what you think? However as another Canon luminary suggested maybe its just my three laptop monitor displays? I'm initially creating this post on my phone. I'll head inside and add the two photos that are saved on my laptop for you to look at taken by the store manager Barry who himself is an expert camera instructor for many years. I next plan to take several photos using Barry's Auto White Balance setting in Big Bear. I might rent another Camera such as a mirror less from Samys Camera and take the same exact shot to compare. Hopefully this Auto White Balance setting with the dial set to the white P works.

Outside Samys Camera 1Outside Samys Camera 2Outside Samys Camera 3Inside Samys CameraAWB with dial on white PWhite P on dialBarrys Setting 

I sincerely hope this helps someone out there.

Thanks All ! 

[LeeP]

Thank goodness for Barry.

[BigAmericanHand]

Whoa!  They so pink I caught Pink Eye just looking at them, bruh!

[Horsefeathers]

Hi Big American Hand ... this new topic was created with the intent to make known any solutions for a problem I've had with this Costco bundled 80D and telephoto lens which together was adding a pink cast to primarily mountain photos in bright high elevation light. The photos I recently posted for this solutions topic show improved results thanks to the help I received from Barry the manager of Samys Camera in Costa Mesa. Great fellow. Anyway so you can appreciate the past pink hues added to photos I'll post two today from the recent past. One taken by my cheap phone displays the ceiling tiles of a restaurant as white while the Canon adds the pink.Some people don't mind this. However when taking photos of the mountains I prefer to see what things look like in real life color. True colors. The various granite faces at different elevations are different in color if you ever take that beautiful drive which tells a forester that different minerals are present for the trees to grow in. And the trees then vary. From Jeffrey, Ponderosa, Sugar Pine, Coulter and other pines to Incense Cedar which grows up there as well. This is what I am studying now with the help of the Pacific Northwest forestry publications I have and older books purchased in Big Bear. So you see true colors are important. It tells you which minerals are present.White Ceiling Tiles using phoneAdded pink using Canon 80D

As mentioned I will be taking a trip to Big Bear again and will rent a different second camera to take the same exact photo separately to see if the colors are true now on my 80D with the dial set to the white P and AWB (auto white balance) in the settings. 

Thanks for your interest

Cheers

[LeeP]

At the risk of causing another protracted verbal meander, the two pictures are from two separate vantage points. 

[Horsefeathers]

I took the two pictures sitting in exactly the same seat having lunch. Since the Canon 80D has a telephoto lens the tiles close by my seat in the restaurant would have been blurry so I had to turn left to shoot the white ceiling tiles through the length of the dining area. I ate there again today. All of the ceiling tiles are white. Pure white. As white as they can be. The Canon clearly added a pink cast. Very pink cast. Take a close look at the wood bar too. The true color of that wood is in the phone photo not the Canon. 

[LeeP]

"I took the two pictures sitting in exactly the same seat having lunch."

Except that you didn't shoot the same picture, same direction, same focal-length perspective, so the illustration is utterly pointless and useless for fixing your supposed issue. 

The coffee bar photo appears to have natural light coming through the windows and the other perspective is flooded with incandescent light which will skew the picture to overly warm tones. Tell me you didn't use a flash--because details the foreground look like they are obliterated with brightness. People always enjoy a meal when someone is taking flash pictures.

Sitting in one spot and taking two pictures in different directions can easily result in two scenes with different EVs and vastly different white balance needs.

"Since the Canon 80D has a telephoto lens..."

That's irrelevant if your premise is to provide the same shot with the camera and your phone. Whatever perspective the camera set up allows, you would mimic that exactly with your phone, but even then, your phone is not incontrovertible proof that something is wrong with your camera.

It's sad that Barry's wisdom has not solved the issue after all. Given that in your experience your phone is so vastly superior to your camera--even with Barry's help--perhaps you should just use your phone from now on and rejoice in the white-balance clarity it gives 100% of the time.

Namaste and out!

[johnrmoyer]

I also have Canon EOS 80D. If you have mentioned what "picture style" you are using in the camera, I have not noticed it. I hope some examples of what I do might be helpful.

I suggest setting the picture style to either "standard" or "landscape" when photographing mountains. Also, if there is wide dynamic range in the scene, dark shadows and also bright clouds, then if the trees and rock colors are less important than the clouds use a negative EV compensation to get good colors in the clouds. I always use Av mode instead of A+ or P mode when photographing mountains. 

For indoor lighting, setting a custom white balance by photographing something white and using that image for the custom white balance will make the following photos in the same lighting have white as white.

Your cell phone software will attempt to fix colors by guessing what should be white. 

If you were to set the camera to save raw CR2 files, then you could do a similar fix in the free to download Canon DPP software. You can choose the eyedropper white balance tool and click on what should be white and the software will adjust all of the colors in the image. If your laptop were running Linux, then Rawtherapee or Darktable free software could do the same.

In 2019, I took my EOS 80D to Alaska and made some photographs of mountains and wildlife. Some of these I have gone back and edited more recently. Back in 2019 I had not yet started saving a record of all of my edits by saving the dr4 recipe file from Canon DPP software. My editing preferences have changed since then also. Back then I used picture style "Faithful" and now I usually use picture style "Standard".

August 9, 2019, Denali National Park. So far as I can remember, this was at about mile 45 of the park road and was made from the Polychrome Mountains overlook. I used hugin free software to stitch together 24 individual photos and then reduced the size so it would not be too big to upload. Focal length for the individual photos was about 100mm.

I processed the photos again in August 2024 using 24 photos instead of the original 20.

August 9, 2019, Denali National Park. So far as I can remember, this was at about mile 45 of the park road and was made from the Polychrome Mountains overlook. I used hugin free software to stitch together 24 individual photos and then reduced the size so it would not be too big to upload. Focal length for the individual photos was about 100mm. I processed the photos again in August 2024 using 24 photos instead of the original 20. I used hugin free software on Debian Linux to do the stiching and GraphicsMagick free software to ad the frame with caption.

Camera settings and edits of the first image in the mosaic as I changed it in 2024

ExifTool	ExifToolVersion	13.25
File:Other	FileName	IMG_9475.CR2
EXIF:Image	ExposureTime	1/250
EXIF:Image	FNumber	8.0
EXIF:Image	ISO	100
EXIF:Image	LensModel	EF100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II USM
EXIF:Camera	Model	Canon EOS 80D
EXIF:Time	DateTimeOriginal	2019:08:09 14:20:00
MakerNotes:Camera	ContinuousDrive	Continuous, High
MakerNotes:Camera	FocusMode	AI Focus AF
MakerNotes:Camera	RecordMode	CR2+JPEG
MakerNotes:Camera	CanonExposureMode	Aperture-priority AE
MakerNotes:Camera	NumAFPoints	45
MakerNotes:Camera	ValidAFPoints	45
MakerNotes:Camera	AFPointsInFocus	17
MakerNotes:Camera	SafetyShift	Enable (ISO speed)
MakerNotes:Camera	MeasuredRGGB	497 1024 1024 726
MakerNotes:Camera	WB_RGGBLevelsAsShot	1833 1024 1024 1616
MakerNotes:Camera	ColorTempAsShot	5816
MakerNotes:Image	MeasuredEV	14.12
MakerNotes:Image	ExposureCompensation	0
MakerNotes:Image	WhiteBalance	Auto
MakerNotes:Image	MeasuredEV2	14.75
MakerNotes:Image	FocusDistanceUpper	191.74 m
MakerNotes:Image	FocusDistanceLower	81.91 m
MakerNotes:Image	PictureStyle	Faithful
ExifTool	ExifToolVersion	13.25
File:Other	FileName	IMG_9475c.dr4
CanonVRD:Image	RawBrightnessAdj	0.33
CanonVRD:Image	WhiteBalanceAdj	Cloudy
CanonVRD:Image	PictureStyle	Shot Settings
CanonVRD:Image	ContrastAdj	0.5
CanonVRD:Image	ColorToneAdj	0
CanonVRD:Image	ColorSaturationAdj	3
CanonVRD:Image	UnsharpMaskStrength	0
CanonVRD:Image	UnsharpMaskFineness	2
CanonVRD:Image	UnsharpMaskThreshold	2
CanonVRD:Image	RGBCurvePoints	(0,0) (64,40) (132,132) (255,255)
CanonVRD:Image	ToneCurveX	64
CanonVRD:Image	ToneCurveY	40
CanonVRD:Image	DLOSetting	50
CanonVRD:Image	GammaShadow	0
CanonVRD:Image	GammaHighlight	0
CanonVRD:Image	GammaBlackPoint	+0.000
CanonVRD:Image	GammaWhitePoint	+0.320
CanonVRD:Image	GammaMidPoint	+0.000

[SignifDigits]

I think that you might need to start with your monitor.  I put this page on my reference monitor and see no pinkish cast.  Whites seem pure white.  The ceiling tile example looks to be a different hue but only because your first photo included more direct light and the second one more indirect incandescent.   I just got my first true color monitor and I can hardly believe the difference. I regret doing without one for so long.  The white shirt in that photo is still pure white.

[LeeP]

^^wisdom^^