More R5 info

[John_SD]

Hopefully this won't get deleted, but Tech Radar interviewed David Parry of Canon (a product marketing specialist) and asked several questions about the R5. Some interesting stuff. I look forward to the camera's release. The last time I posted some info about the R5, in which a Canon source confirmed specs, our crackerjack mods deleted it almost immediately. 

[RobertTheFat]

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@ebiggs1 wrote:

"Many are appreciative of the mechanical shutter in the Canons..."

Hey, man, I am not a mirrorless fan.  I doubt seriously I will ever buy a pro level mirrorless. The 1D Mk III could be my last camera ever. Mirrorless seems to be a solution to a problem we never had.

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We'll bookmark that opinion and check back to see if you feel the same after you've had a chance to study the R5.  

[ebiggs1]

Robert, "... you've had a chance to study the R5"  Ain't gonna happen! No studying, no reading about. I hope it is a brilliant success but not for me.  I have zero as in no interest in a mirrorless camera.  Probably not clear but I have no interest in a mirrorless camera.  Too old too set in my ways. Too much money to invest in another new lens format.  Already been there done that. If Canon had left the mount alone.....maybe. 

[RobertTheFat]

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@ebiggs1 wrote:

Robert, "... you've had a chance to study the R5"  Ain't gonna happen! No studying, no reading about. I hope it is a brilliant success but not for me.  I have zero as in no interest in a mirrorless camera.  Probably not clear but I have no interest in a mirrorless camera.  Too old too set in my ways. Too much money to invest in another new lens format.  Already been there done that. If Canon had left the mount alone.....maybe. 

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The problem is, Ernie, that we remember you saying the same thing about the 1DX. ("Nothing could ever match my 1DS Mk II", etc., etc.) And do you seriously think you can resist trying out the R-mount version of the 70-200mm f/2.8 (alleged to be smaller and lighter than the original, but at least as sharp)? I can assure you that I do not. You might as well prepare yourself for the inevitable.

[John_SD]

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@RobertTheFat wrote:

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@ebiggs1 wrote:

Robert, "... you've had a chance to study the R5"  Ain't gonna happen! No studying, no reading about. I hope it is a brilliant success but not for me.  I have zero as in no interest in a mirrorless camera.  Probably not clear but I have no interest in a mirrorless camera.  Too old too set in my ways. Too much money to invest in another new lens format.  Already been there done that. If Canon had left the mount alone.....maybe. 

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The problem is, Ernie, that we remember you saying the same thing about the 1DX. ("Nothing could ever match my 1DS Mk II", etc., etc.) And do you seriously think you can resist trying out the R-mount version of the 70-200mm f/2.8 (alleged to be smaller and lighter than the original, but at least as sharp)? I can assure you that I do not. You might as well prepare yourself for the inevitable.

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I am sure that for the guys who have had a large collection of cameras, lenses and gear over the years, the mirrorless R5 may seem unnecessary, and so you could talk yourself out of it. Yes, the R5 wil be pricey, no doubt. But if you love photography and higher end cameras, why not indulge yourself if you can afford it? Use adapted lenses until you rebuild a collection of RF glass. There are some real advantages to mirrorless, especially for those of us who walk around in the outdoors all day with a brick around our necks. But if the R5 lives up to the hype, and it just might, I say go for it. 

I do not subscribe to the belief that one is too old or has had too many cameras to continue enjoying the hobby or new gear. I often use the example of my former neighbor. This was an elderly man who continued to drive well into his old age. And he had no points or tickets, of which he was proud. He was a lifelong automotive enthusiast, who was driving an older and larger Buick, which was becoming awkward for him to handle. Thus, his son took away the keys and parked the vehicle on his own property. Old Ben didn't protest the decision. He merely went out and bought himself a new Mustang which proved to be easier for him to handle. And he enjoys it immensely. An enthusiast to the end.  

[ebiggs1]

"I do not subscribe to the belief that one is too old or has had too many cameras ..."

John you are simply not old enough or you don't have "too many cameras/lenses" to know!   I am and I do.

[John_SD]

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@ebiggs1 wrote:

"I do not subscribe to the belief that one is too old or has had too many cameras ..."

John you are simply not old enough or you don't have "too many cameras/lenses" to know!   I am and I do.

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You have it right on both counts! Not a problem, though, as you older DSLR gents will leave more space for us in the pre-order queue. 🙂

[RobertTheFat]

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@John_SD wrote:

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@ebiggs1 wrote:

"I do not subscribe to the belief that one is too old or has had too many cameras ..."

John you are simply not old enough or you don't have "too many cameras/lenses" to know!   I am and I do.

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You have it right on both counts! Not a problem, though, as you older DSLR gents will leave more space for us in the pre-order queue. 🙂

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Maybe this time, but don't count on it for the future.  For example, I'm older than Ernie, but I'm not ready to promise not to buy another camera. And if I do, it will be a mirrorless. They're the future of serious photography, whether one likes it or not.

[John_SD]

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@RobertTheFat wrote:

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Maybe this time, but don't count on it for the future.  For example, I'm older than Ernie, but I'm not ready to promise not to buy another camera. And if I do, it will be a mirrorless. They're the future of serious photography, whether one likes it or not.

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You are correct. Mirrorless is not only the future of serious photography, (and increasingly, casual photography) but pros all over the world are also starting the make the switch. For all practical purposes, the day of the DSLR is coming to a close, whether one acknowledges it or not. Doesn't mean that the DSLR will not continue to function, it just means that they will soon be relics of the past. 

[Waddizzle]

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@John_SD wrote:

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@RobertTheFat wrote:

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Maybe this time, but don't count on it for the future.  For example, I'm older than Ernie, but I'm not ready to promise not to buy another camera. And if I do, it will be a mirrorless. They're the future of serious photography, whether one likes it or not.

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You are correct. Mirrorless is not only the future of serious photography, (and increasingly, casual photography) but pros all over the world are also starting the make the switch. For all practical purposes, the day of the DSLR is coming to a close, whether one acknowledges it or not. Doesn't mean that the DSLR will not continue to function, it just means that they will soon be relics of the past. 

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I agree.  I forgot the caveat that I am not inclined to heavily invest in RF glass because of my EF glass.  If I had to buy a new camera, it would almost certainly be a Canon mirrorless.  The horrific buffering in the Sony bodies makes all of them complete non-starters.

[John_SD]

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@Waddizzle wrote:

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I agree.  I forgot the caveat that I am not inclined to heavily invest in RF glass because of my EF glass.  If I had to buy a new camera, it would almost certainly be a Canon mirrorless.  The horrific buffering in the Sony bodies makes all of them complete non-starters.

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In your situation with your collection of EF glass, that makes perfectly good sense. Re the Sonys, such as the A9 II or A7R4, I believe they have gotten past the worst of the bottlenecks. 

As for mirrorless vs DSLR, the shift is well underway. In most cases, if one were going to invest in a new enthusiast- or pro- level camera today, this is probably not the time to be buying a pricey DSLR, despite the occassional cries to the contrary. I would warn most people off of older tech now. Or as a wise man once said, "I pity the fool!"