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I have Spots on some of my Pictures, not sure what this is, maybe the weather of some Mist.

pris796
Enthusiast

Their were a lot of Fog, not on all my Pictures, just some. Please help me understand what is going on. Thank you all.

 

1/400

F/18

75 MM

ISO 1600

T3

 

 

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1/400

F/11

18 MM

ISO 1600

T3

 

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1/1250

F/11

35 MM

ISO 1600

T3

 

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Pris796

 

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Waddizzle
Legend
Legend

It looks like you have a spot of dust, or dirt, on your image sensor.  DO NOT try to wipe it off. 

 

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Use a blower to blow out the mirror box, while you hold the camera so that the dust and dirt falls out and away.

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Definitely sensor dust. Pretty big dust too. You can easily remove it from a blue sky using software, but not easily from those trees. 

 

Definitely buy a bulb blower and use it.  Look at YouTube videos for help and visuals. The thing you see when you take the lens off is not the sensor; it is the mirror that the camera uses for focusing and to show you the world through the viewfinder. The sensor is under the mirror.

 

Go into the MENU tabs and tell the camera to raise the mirror up to locked position.  Make sure the battery has a decent charge so it will continue holding the mirror up during the procedure. Blow the heck out of the sensor and the inside of the camera in general with the camera facing the ground so the dust falls out. 

 

This should get most of the big pieces. If you have stubborn dust or if there are water spots or stuck-on crud that you can't live with the sensor needs cleaned. You CAN do this yourself if you buy the tools and read and watch videos on how, but you may prefer to pay a camera shop to do it.  Doing it wrong can damage your sensor. 

 

 

Scott

Canon 5d mk 4, Canon 6D, EF 70-200mm L f/2.8 IS mk2; EF 16-35 f/2.8 L mk. III; Sigma 35mm f/1.4 "Art" EF 100mm f/2.8L Macro; EF 85mm f/1.8; EF 1.4x extender mk. 3; EF 24-105 f/4 L; EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS; 3x Phottix Mitros+ speedlites

Why do so many people say "FER-tographer"? Do they take "fertographs"?

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TCampbell
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The intensity of the dust spots will depend on the aperture setting used for the particular exposure.  

 

At low focal ratio values (f-stops) the dust spots will appear weaker.  At high focal ratios they'll be well-defined.

 

To clear these, you can try a few tings...

 

1)  Indoors (no wind), remove the lens.  Point the camera body at the floor and switch the camera off... wait a moment, then swtich it back on.  You can also use the menu system on your camera and navigate to the menu item that lets you manual invoke a sensor cleaning cycle.

 

Technically the dust isn't on the camera "sensor" per se... there's a couple layers of filters (glass) directly in front of the sensor. These do things such as block IR and UV light.  There's also a "low pass" filter (reduces the moiré effect) that can show up when shooting certain patterns.  But the front-most filter is attached to a piezoelectric charge device which causes the filter to vibrate quickly.  This can often "shake" the dust off the camera.

 

But the reason for removing the lens and pointing the camera opening at the floor is so that when the filter does vibrate to shake the dust loose... the dust can exit the camera (otherwise it's just going to settle somewhere else and it's just a matter of time before it's right back on the sensor again.  The "problem" is every time you take a shot, the reflex mirror "wooshes" up and down and that blows the air around inside the camera so the dust can migrate.

 

2)  Hand squeezed air blower

 

Sometimes just a couple of sensor cleaning cycles is enough.  But if that doesn't work... then use a HAND-SQUEEZED air blow (emphasis on HAND SQEEZED).  Do NOT use cans of compressed air.  Do NOT use an air compressor.  Both are very bad.

 

As air rapidly decompresses from an air-compressor it will splatter moisture and air compressors are lubricated with oil and the "air" will put a residue on your filter.  The same is true of cans of compressed air.  The propellent leaves a "film" residue if the can is not held upright (and not shaken).  So the probability is that if you use canned air or an air compressor you'll actually make things worse.

 

If you use a hand-squeezed bulb, the puffs of air don't have any contaminants, no oils, no films, etc.  and it's not rapidly decompressing air that will fog the sensor by chilling it.  It usually doesn't take much air to clear the sensor.

 

The Giottos "rocket" blower is a popular hand-squeezed blower.

 

 

If it isn't clean at this point, you have a decision to make.  You can either (a) take the camera to a camera store that cleans sensors (they usually don't charge very much and it can be done quickly), or (b) decide to clean it yourself.  

 

If you choose path (b) you'll need some proper cleaning supplies (more on that later) but the MAIN thing you have to realize is that you can damage things if you aren't careful.  So don't go rushing into anything further without reading and following the cleaning instructions, watching instructional videos, etc.   

 

 

3)  Sometimes a few puffs of air isn't enough.  If it's not enough... I tend to grab a magnifying loupe to inspect the sensor to see what I'm working with... and then I use two more tools.

 

a)  You can use a sensor brush.  This brush should be pristinely clean and free of oils (resist the temptation to feel the brush with your fingers and get skin oils all over them.)  Give the brush a firm "whack" on the edge of a desk to knock loose any dust that might be clinging to the bristles.  

 

Put the camera into "manual sensor cleaning" mode.  This causes the reflex mirror to swing up and it opens the shutter curtain so you can access the "sensor" (again... it's really a glass filter in front of the sensor... the actualy sensor is a couple layers below the surface you can touch).  Gently (with virtually no pressure) see if the brush can wipe the dust away.  If it cannot wipe it away with gentle (virtually no pressure) swipes then DO NOT use more pressure... that can scratch things.  Time to go to a wet cleaning method.

 

b)  The "wet" cleaning method involves using sensor cleaning solution and a swab.  The popular solution is called "Eclipse" by Photographic Solutions, Inc.  The same company makes something called "sensor swabs" and these swabs come in sizes which are designed to match the height of the sensor.  The Canon T3 has an APS-C size sensor so you'd get the "Type 2" size swabs.

 

Solution is almost pure methanol.  The advantage is it works as a solvent sto clean whatever is on the sensor but methanol evaporates VERY quickly and leaves virtually no residue of it's own behind.  So you get a very clean surface.

 

You can find instructional videos on how to use the product.  But basically you follow the instructions which is to use just a few drops (maybe 3 drops) on the swap.  You then do one clean pass across the sensor from one edge to the other.  Then you immediately toss that swab in the trash (do not reuse a swap.  yes, the swabs are "expensive" for what they are ... each swab is probably about $3.  But a $3 swap is a LOT cheaper than sending the camera in for service to have the filter replaced because you scratched it.  This is NOT the time to try to save a few bucks by reusing swaps.

 

 

 

4)  Verify your work

 

It's hard to "see" dust on the sensor -- especially if it's small.  

 

Turn the camera off.  Attach a lens.  Put the camera into Av mode and set the HIGHEST possible aperture your lens will allow (f/22 or f/32 depending on the lens).  Put the lens in manual focus mode.  Deliberately de-focus the lens (so everything is blurry).  Point the lens at a plain white (but well lit) wall ... and snap a photo.

 

Now inspect that photo very closely.  If there are any spots or dust bunnies remaining on the sensor, their shadows will appear on the image you just shot.

 

 

 

LASTLY... do not clean anything else inside the camera.  For example, I don't recommend attempting to clean the reflex mirror or the viewfinder screen.  If there's dust on those... just let it be (if a few puffs of air don't remove it, then ignore it.)  The mirror and viewfinder are very easy to damage AND since the mirror swings clear (and covers the viewfinder) when you take a shot, any dust or spots on those surfaces can't effect your images anyway.

 

Tim Campbell
5D III, 5D IV, 60Da

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Two reasons...

 

The live view screen is tiny.  When you reduce the size of an image you can hide a lot of problems that would be easily noticed  in a larger size.  

 

Also, live view is a "simulation" of the exposure ... but it's not the real exposure.  The live-view screen is being recorded at "wide open" aperture... and it's hard to see dust spots when it's wide open.  When you take the shot, the aperture stops down to whatever f-stop was selected and at higher f-stops the dust spots would be easy to see.

 

To try this for yourself... point the camera at a plain white wall, put the camera into Av mode, defocus the lens, and take two shots... take one at "wide open" (whatever the lowest f-stop is for your lens) and take the next shot at the maximum f-stop (typically f/22 or f/32 depending on the lens).  Now compare.  You'll notice the dust is MUCH easier to spot in the high-stop shot, and a bit more blurred out (less easy to spot) at the lowest f-stop.

 

 

Tim Campbell
5D III, 5D IV, 60Da

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lly3988
Rising Star

DIY sensor cleaning is not for the fainted heart. If you can manage to do it, you will have the satisfaction. I experienced the procdure on my old 40D, then T4i and then my 5D2 and 5D3. All successful. I did it for free for my friends.

 

It is pretty easy if you follow a few simple steps.

 

1. Turn on your camera installed with a fully charged battery. Clean the sensor in camera menu then select "clean manually". Mirror will lock up.

 

2. With the camera mount hole facing down. Use a blower to blow in air several time to remove any dust particles attached superficially to the sensor.  (actually the filter on top of the sensor itself) Avoid touching any component inside the mirror/sensor mechanism.

 

3. Turn off the camera and test again to see if the dust particles are gone. If there are only a few left and won't affect your photos, just leave it. The big spot on your posted pictures are intolerable. So, definitely, you need to remove it. Normally if you do not set the aperture to f11 or above, some spots are basically invisible. Repeat the in camera cleaning a few times and hopefully you will see better results.

 

4. Some dusts are easy to remove. A few blow will help but some are hard to remove. You may have to use wet clean method as others suggested above. Don't get freak out when you see something liked my attached pic #3 below. A follow up dry swap will remove the streaks.

 

5. Unless you are very careless or you use the wrong tools ( can of compressed air, sharp tools,lens cloth instead of quality swaps and low quality alcohol solution) chances of damage to the camera is minimal.

 

before clean.jpgafter clean.jpg3 after 2nd wet clean.jpg

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Scott,

Thank you for the info.

 

pris796

 

lly3988
Rising Star

DIY sensor cleaning is not for the fainted heart. If you can manage to do it, you will have the satisfaction. I experienced the procdure on my old 40D, then T4i and then my 5D2 and 5D3. All successful. I did it for free for my friends.

 

It is pretty easy if you follow a few simple steps.

 

1. Turn on your camera installed with a fully charged battery. Clean the sensor in camera menu then select "clean manually". Mirror will lock up.

 

2. With the camera mount hole facing down. Use a blower to blow in air several time to remove any dust particles attached superficially to the sensor.  (actually the filter on top of the sensor itself) Avoid touching any component inside the mirror/sensor mechanism.

 

3. Turn off the camera and test again to see if the dust particles are gone. If there are only a few left and won't affect your photos, just leave it. The big spot on your posted pictures are intolerable. So, definitely, you need to remove it. Normally if you do not set the aperture to f11 or above, some spots are basically invisible. Repeat the in camera cleaning a few times and hopefully you will see better results.

 

4. Some dusts are easy to remove. A few blow will help but some are hard to remove. You may have to use wet clean method as others suggested above. Don't get freak out when you see something liked my attached pic #3 below. A follow up dry swap will remove the streaks.

 

5. Unless you are very careless or you use the wrong tools ( can of compressed air, sharp tools,lens cloth instead of quality swaps and low quality alcohol solution) chances of damage to the camera is minimal.

 

before clean.jpgafter clean.jpg3 after 2nd wet clean.jpg

"DIY sensor cleaning is not for the fainted heart. If you can manage to do it, you will have the satisfaction. I experienced the procdure on my old 40D, then T4i and then my 5D2 and 5D3. All successful. I did it for free for my friends.

 

It is pretty easy if you follow a few simple steps"

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I am sure it is pretty easy, IF you can see what you're doing.  Some of us are vision impaired.

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lly3988,

Thank you.

 

pris796

TTMartin
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A lighted magnifier is a must have for sensor cleaning.


TTMartin wrote:
A lighted magnifier is a must have for sensor cleaning.

It also helps to have three or four hands, does it not?

Bob
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania USA

Bob,

Sounds like it.

 

pris796

 

amfoto1
Authority

You have a dirty image sensor. Actually, it's a multi-coated glass filter that sits in front of and protects the image sensor that needs cleaning. You're T3 doesn't have a self-cleaning sensor, like many other Canon models do.

 

So you have choice of paying someone to clean the sensor for you or buying the stuff needed to do it and learning to clean it yourself.

 

Sensor cleaning isn't difficult, but needs to be done carefully and properly. To help you decide if you want to do it yourself or not, I would highly recommend you do some online research. Google for a website Cleaning Digital Cameras (I'd post a link, but it's against forum quidelines, so they'd just remove it.)  That site was put together and is maintained by professional repair techs who've done hundreds of cleanings and also happen to run Micro-Tools, one of the main sources of camera repair and service tools and supplies in the U.S. and Europe. They've tried practically every sensor cleaning method that's ever been invented.

 

Study every page at that website. It's very comprehensive info about the sensor cleaning process. It should help you decide whether to do it yourself or to pay someone else to clean in for you.

 

If you decide to do it yourself, some basic info you need to know:

 

- Be sure your camera battery is fully charged. The cleaning process requires setting the camera in a mode that lifts the mirror and opens the shutter. This requires a continuous supply of power to maintain. If the battery is low on power, the shutter might close or the mirror drop down onto the cleaning tool you're using, causing damage to the camera.

 

- If the camera has never had a sensor cleaning, the first cleaning must be a "wet cleaning". This is because there are almost always some oils specks on the surface, which any sort of dry cleaning method will only smear and contaminate the tool.

 

- You must be very careful working inside the camera. Avoid touching the mirror.... it front-surfaced, usually with vaporized aluminum that's easily damaged. Also stay clear of the focus screen immediately above the mirror, which is optical plastic and easily damaged. On most cameras there are also delicate foam light seals around the perimeter of the focus screen. Once the camera is set into the sensor cleaning mode, the mirror flips up to cover and protect the focus screen. They are really only vulnerable when the camera isn't in sensor cleaning mode.

 

Hope this helps! I do think it's good to know how to clean the sensor yourself, and to have at least a basic set of sensor cleaning supplies and tools available, because who knows when or where it might be needed.

 

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Alan Myers
San Jose, Calif., USA
"Walk softly and carry a big lens."
GEAR: 5DII, 7DII (x2), 7D(x2) some other cameras, various lenses & accessories
FLICKR & EXPOSUREMANAGER 

Alan,

Thank you for your info, I did use the blower and it seem to work but I will take some more pictures and make sure I do not have any spots on the photos.

 

Thank You,

pris796

 

TTMartin
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The first cleaning does not have to be a wet cleaning. Wet cleaning is generally a last resort cleaning method. SensorKlear followed by DustAid (both dry methods) worked great for me when I had stubborn spots that didn't blow or brush off. This was covered in the link I PM'do you.
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