EOS 5D Mark IV Introduced

[Waddizzle]

My favorite, NYC based, online Canon retailer is holding an event today, introducing the 30MB 5D mark IV.  The specifications for the camera are online, and the camera is available for pre-order.  It is priced comparable to the 5Ds cameras.  It looks like a winner.

[RobertTheFat]

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@Waddizzle wrote:

My favorite, NYC based, online Canon retailer is holding an event today, introducing the 30MB 5D mark IV.  The specifications for the camera are online, and the camera is available for pre-order.  It is priced comparable to the 5Ds cameras.  It looks like a winner.

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The 5D4 was more or less expected – some might even say overdue. But it's accompanied by several lens upgrades, and I'm not sure any of us saw that coming.

Hmmm... I guess it's just two new lenses. In the email I thought it looked like more. Anyway, the two are upgrades of already very popular lenses.

BTW, I can't help noticing that the 5D4/24-105 II kit isn't much of a bargain. It costs $1 more than buying the camera and the lens separately!

[TTMartin]

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@RobertTheFat wrote:

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@Waddizzle wrote:

My favorite, NYC based, online Canon retailer is holding an event today, introducing the 30MB 5D mark IV.  The specifications for the camera are online, and the camera is available for pre-order.  It is priced comparable to the 5Ds cameras.  It looks like a winner.

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The 5D4 was more or less expected – some might even say overdue. But it's accompanied by several lens upgrades, and I'm not sure any of us saw that coming.

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The EF 24-105 f/4L IS was in desperate need of updating. 

[RobertTheFat]

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@TTMartin wrote:

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@RobertTheFat wrote:

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@Waddizzle wrote:

My favorite, NYC based, online Canon retailer is holding an event today, introducing the 30MB 5D mark IV.  The specifications for the camera are online, and the camera is available for pre-order.  It is priced comparable to the 5Ds cameras.  It looks like a winner.

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The 5D4 was more or less expected – some might even say overdue. But it's accompanied by several lens upgrades, and I'm not sure any of us saw that coming.

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The EF 24-105 f/4L IS was in desperate need of updating. 

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Y'know, I lot of people seem to say that, but I've gotten very good results with mine. Maybe I just got an especially good copy.

[ebiggs1]

B from B,

"...  but I've gotten very good results ..."

As you already know the ef 24-105mm f4L is my rated 'best buy' in a Canon "L" lens. I have had good luck with several of them over the years so I can't complain either.  Made a lot of money with them.  But you can make good, gooder!  Can't you?  Also as a general rule of thumb Canon lenses beat brand-N consistently with few exceptions. One is the cheap 50mm f1.8, brand-N is better.  The other is Nikon's verison of the 24-105.  The AF-S Nikkor 24-120mm f/4G ED VR Lens.  Perhaps I will have to remove it from that side of the ledger but the "L" will  still not have 120mm.

[ebiggs1]

Bob
Boston, Massachusetts USA

Speaking of goodness, the 5D Mk III is/was already a good camera.  As good as it gets some say, including me.  I guess we will see if the Mk IV is gooder!

[RobertTheFat]

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@ebiggs1 wrote:

Bob
Boston, Massachusetts USA

Speaking of goodness, the 5D Mk III is/was already a good camera.  As good as it gets some say, including me.  I guess we will see if the Mk IV is gooder!

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Well, 30 Mp is not to be sneered at, assuming it doesn't compromise the camera's low-light performance compared to the 5D3. I suppose the dual-pixel autofocus is A Good Thing as well. The WiFi, touch screen, and alleged video improvements I could easily live without if that would lower the price a bit.

Are they going to keep making the 5D3 or phase it out when the present stock is exhausted? (I ask because I assume that your Canon sources are better than mine.) 

[TTMartin]

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@RobertTheFat wrote:

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@TTMartin wrote:

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@RobertTheFat wrote:

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@Waddizzle wrote:

My favorite, NYC based, online Canon retailer is holding an event today, introducing the 30MB 5D mark IV.  The specifications for the camera are online, and the camera is available for pre-order.  It is priced comparable to the 5Ds cameras.  It looks like a winner.

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The 5D4 was more or less expected – some might even say overdue. But it's accompanied by several lens upgrades, and I'm not sure any of us saw that coming.

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The EF 24-105 f/4L IS was in desperate need of updating. 

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Y'know, I lot of people seem to say that, but I've gotten very good results with mine. Maybe I just got an especially good copy.

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It's good stopped down especially at the long end, but, wide open it leaves a lot to be desired. In my opinion what you are paying for in an L lens is great image quality, even when wide open, the original EF 24-105 f/4L IS just doesn't deliver in that regard. I'm sure that will have changed with the new one.

[ebiggs1]

B from B,

"Are they going to keep making the 5D3 or phase it out when the present stock is exhausted?"

I suspect the last 5d3 has already been made. Maybe we'll see some good close-outs?

You are right 30 vs 22.  At one time 8 mp was all a camera had instead of just an update.

[diverhank]

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@RobertTheFat wrote:

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The 5D4 was more or less expected – some might even say overdue. But it's accompanied by several lens upgrades, and I'm not sure any of us saw that coming.

Hmmm... I guess it's just two new lenses. In the email I thought it looked like more. Anyway, the two are upgrades of already very popular lenses.

BTW, I can't help noticing that the 5D4/24-105 II kit isn't much of a bargain. It costs $1 more than buying the camera and the lens separately!

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None of these was a surprise for me...the rumours had been out for several months regarding the Mark IV and the 24-105II and the 16-35 III and they were dead accurate.

People complained about the previous version of the two lenses that got upgraded.  I had both of them and thought they weren't too bad at all.  I don't see an overwhelming need to upgrade.

Interesting observation on the kit price...I guess we won't be seeing heavily discounted 24-105 II lenses anytime soon like we enjoyed with the 24-105 version I.

Regarding the 5D Mark IV, even though it's not obvious reading the specs, based on the 80D and 1DX II test results, the 5D Mark IV sensor will be a huge improvement over the 5D Mark III in terms of dynamic range - the ability to push the shadows (3 or 4 stops better).  Also the ability to focus at f/8 using all points should significantly improve AF for those of us using teleconverters.

The 8MB resolution increase, GPS, Wifi, touchscreen, 4K video etc. are icing on the cake...I think it's a worthy upgrade from the 5D Mark III...Not sure I'm excited about the $3500 price tag, though...