09-04-2024 07:00 PM - last edited on 09-04-2024 08:40 PM by Tiffany
I have two Canon 5D's. I use Windows 10 on my desk top PC
Recently, while on vacation with a friend, we went out to photograph scenery on the Oregon coast, which included a lighthouse. I set the QUALITY in the menu function to capture in RAW+Ljpeg. Then I went into PICTURE STYLE to set monochrome with the red filter. When I off-loaded the flash card to the computer, I found that the jpegs were all in b&w, and the RAW files were all in color. Isn't it possible to capture RAW files in B&W? Or is the whole point to use Photoshop, Lightroom, etc., to convert the RAW color files to B&W on an as-needed basis? Of course, I'd want to make use of the (information on) larger files of the RAW captures; but the jpeg files are much smaller than the RAW, and they are not much adjustable.
Any help or suggestions will be appreciated.
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09-04-2024 07:54 PM - edited 09-04-2024 08:24 PM
Hello, and welcome to the forum!
By nature, Raw will retain all of the data collected, so yes, it is up to you to apply a picture style in your post editor for the Raw files. If you use Canons free Digital Photo Professional 4 (DPP4), it will apply your picture style to the Raw automatically but keep your Raw data intact. You can change styles at will, so you can have both color and B&W if you so choose. Also, keep in mind that the JPeG files have been converted from Raw to that format using your style settings, amongst other various camera settings.
It's been a while since I messed with Adobe products, but I think you can do the same with LR, but it may not select your picture style automatically.
Newton
09-04-2024 08:49 PM - edited 09-04-2024 08:52 PM
@jbnunzio wrote:
I have two Canon 5D's. I use Windows 10 on my desk top PC
Recently, while on vacation with a friend, we went out to photograph scenery on the Oregon coast, which included a lighthouse. I set the QUALITY in the menu function to capture in RAW+Ljpeg. Then I went into PICTURE STYLE to set monochrome with the red filter. When I off-loaded the flash card to the computer, I found that the jpegs were all in b&w, and the RAW files were all in color. Isn't it possible to capture RAW files in B&W? Or is the whole point to use Photoshop, Lightroom, etc., to convert the RAW color files to B&W on an as-needed basis? Of course, I'd want to make use of the (information on) larger files of the RAW captures; but the jpeg files are much smaller than the RAW, and they are not much adjustable.
Any help or suggestions will be appreciated.
If you shoot RAW you can select any Picture Style (or Profile, as they are called in Lightroom and Photoshop). Lightroom and Adobe Camera Raw in Photoshop are non-destructive; you can select Monochrome, work on your image, export or print it and then choose another profile and work on it again. You can save the first effort be creating a Virtual Copy before starting the second edit.
09-04-2024 07:54 PM - edited 09-04-2024 08:24 PM
Hello, and welcome to the forum!
By nature, Raw will retain all of the data collected, so yes, it is up to you to apply a picture style in your post editor for the Raw files. If you use Canons free Digital Photo Professional 4 (DPP4), it will apply your picture style to the Raw automatically but keep your Raw data intact. You can change styles at will, so you can have both color and B&W if you so choose. Also, keep in mind that the JPeG files have been converted from Raw to that format using your style settings, amongst other various camera settings.
It's been a while since I messed with Adobe products, but I think you can do the same with LR, but it may not select your picture style automatically.
Newton
09-04-2024 08:32 PM - edited 09-04-2024 08:37 PM
I just broke out my 5D IV and took a quick test shot using the monochrome picture style in the 5D IV, just to make sure.
Here is a screen shot of the Raw in DPP 4
From there you can edit either B&W or color, then "convert and save" to jpg or tif.
Newton
01-07-2025 10:33 PM
Where do I download the DPP for a Canon 5D 4?
01-08-2025 01:02 AM - edited 01-08-2025 01:08 AM
Hello, liveinpeace!
Go to the Canon Support page for the 5D IV (<<= Link to U.S. site), select your OS, and it will be in a list. You may have to click "Show More" a few times, but it will eventually show. It might even pop right to the top, LOL! It will be ver. 4.18.10 (Windows). Honestly, you can get the latest version from any newer Canon cameras support page as DPP 4 isn't camera specific 🙂
Also, make sure your 5D IV has the latest firmware. I seem to remember updating mine recently. I think the latest is 1.4.0.
Newton
09-04-2024 08:49 PM - edited 09-04-2024 08:52 PM
@jbnunzio wrote:
I have two Canon 5D's. I use Windows 10 on my desk top PC
Recently, while on vacation with a friend, we went out to photograph scenery on the Oregon coast, which included a lighthouse. I set the QUALITY in the menu function to capture in RAW+Ljpeg. Then I went into PICTURE STYLE to set monochrome with the red filter. When I off-loaded the flash card to the computer, I found that the jpegs were all in b&w, and the RAW files were all in color. Isn't it possible to capture RAW files in B&W? Or is the whole point to use Photoshop, Lightroom, etc., to convert the RAW color files to B&W on an as-needed basis? Of course, I'd want to make use of the (information on) larger files of the RAW captures; but the jpeg files are much smaller than the RAW, and they are not much adjustable.
Any help or suggestions will be appreciated.
If you shoot RAW you can select any Picture Style (or Profile, as they are called in Lightroom and Photoshop). Lightroom and Adobe Camera Raw in Photoshop are non-destructive; you can select Monochrome, work on your image, export or print it and then choose another profile and work on it again. You can save the first effort be creating a Virtual Copy before starting the second edit.
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