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Canon R5 freeze after 1.5.1 update

mgammal
Contributor

Hi Canon,

After installing firmware 1.5, I was having my R5 freeze regularly with animal eye autofocus mapped to back button focus. I installed firmware update 1.5.1 this weekend hoping it will fix the issue. I went out today to shooting some shore birds. My R5 locked up 3 times in a period of 1.5 hours of shooting, one of the three was was with error E70. In all three cases, turning the camera off/on fixed the issue; this is different from firmware 1.5 freezes, where I had to take out the battery to fix the freeze. 

Please let me know if you need more information about the camera settings. I happy to share them. 

Regards, Mo

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NatalyaP
Product Expert
Product Expert

Greetings, mgammal

I'm sorry to hear about the freezing issues you're experiencing with your EOS R5 after updating the firmware to version 1.5.1. An Error 70 relates to an image related malfunction being detected by the camera. Please provide us with the camera settings, the lens you were using, if any accessories were attached to the camera, and shooting environment.

If possible, please test a different memory card with the camera to see if the same issue occurs. We recommend to format the memory card prior to using it and please note that formatting a memory card will erase all data from the card.

Hi NatalyaP, 

Thanks for your quick reply. To make sure my report is clear, only one of the three freezes was with error E70, the other two were just freezes while trying to acquire focus.

Lens:

I was using is Canon RF 100-500, with only the lens attached to the R5. The lens settings was: IS ON, IS mode 2, focus is set to 3m - infinity. Focal Length was at 500mm. 

Camera setting:

Servo focus

Animal eye autofocus assigned to back button focus

Focus method - was set to Expand Focus Area: Around 

Shutter button set up to metering only

Exposure simulation enabled

Display performance set to smooth

Environment:

Temp: 55 degree (f), around 2:30 PM, partly cloudy skies, subject: Oyster catchers on darker rocks and mallard ducks swimming near the shore, distance to subjects: ~15-45 meters, subjects were side lit. 

I have the settings saved to one of the custom modes, I'm happy to share them over email. 

Regards, Mo

 

Hi mgammal,

When Err70 happens on a camera it would freeze, so the two freezes without the error message could have still been related. The settings you listed are in line with what we would expect. Those settings shouldn't be causing the camera to freeze.

Typically Err70 is related to the camera being unable to write files to or read files from the memory card. I see you mentioned it was happening when you were focusing, but it would still be good to try loading different memory cards in the camera to see if the same thing happen.

If the issue continues the next step would be to attach a different lens on the camera and take some test shots to see if the same thing happens. That way it can be narrowed down to if the issue is being caused by the lens or the camera body. If the error is only coming up when your RF100-500mm lens is attached we would recommend sending the lens in for repair. If the error is coming up regardless of the lens attached and memory card used we would recommend sending the camera in for repair.

If you send the camera or lens in for repair make sure to include a copy of the proof of purchase in the box. The technician will need that to verify the warranty.

Canon U.S.A., Inc. has created a new online repair portal that allows you to set up service in a few simple steps. The repair portal gives you the ability to set up service for multiple pieces of equipment at once, and to receive a repair estimate in the majority of cases, depending on your model and issue. The portal also allows you to upload images or videos that will assist us in repairing your product. You can also select how you wish to be notified of the progress of your repair. The portal's service history section allows you to view all services that have been performed on any of your camera or video products since January 7, 2020.

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Once you have completed the repair request, you will have an opportunity to print a copy of the request for your records. This request form will also contain shipping instructions and an address label that you will attach to the outside of your shipping box when mailing your equipment for repair.

Hi Hazel, 

I will try a different storage card to rule out a card problem. The freeze sequence was as follows:

1. A black out freeze during focusing, with no error message, turn the camera off/on, shoot some more for around 20 mins

2. A black out freeze during shooting, this time with Err70, turn the camera off/on, shoot some more for around 30 mins

3. A black out freeze during focusing, with no error message, turn the camera off/on, shoot some more for around 40 mins

Just more info, both the 100-500 lens and R5 just came back from a second a trip to CPS where they verified they are working correctly. 

mgammal
Contributor

Hi Hazel, 

This morning, I low-level formatted a different card from a different manufacture, a 128GB Sandisk, in camera. Tried to focus on a nearby roof -- about 50 meters away. The camera locked up within the first 15 seconds of keeping the back button focus pressed.

Regards, Mo 

Thanks Joseph, 

I actually sent the camera and lens to Canon repair (I have CPS membership) two times already over the last month for inspection/repair; in both cases they returned them with a note that they operating within  spec, and a future firmware will fix the problem, this was before 1.5.1 was released. I saved the settings that I replicate the problem with in case Canon need them. 

Regards, Mo

lindat
Contributor

I would like to add to this thread since I am having similar problems after the 1.5.1 update. I plan to continue gathering information and will contact Canon again. 

1. I am using the R5 with the AF-On button set to center point Servo. The star button is set to Animal Eye detect. The shutter button has no focus function, just takes the photo.  
2. I am using a ProGrade card 128 GB, 300 MB/s R, 250MB W
3. I am using the RF 100-500 lens with the RF 1.4x attached. Prior to installing version 1.5 and then later 1.5.1 I never had issues with the 100-500 causing a freeze. I only had updated to 1.2 and no further. However, I did not have the 1.4x extender at that time. I just began using the extender with version 1.5. 
4. Camera froze about 5 times with 100-500 in 15 min. after 1.5.1 update. It was freezing with 1.5 also.   I was going back and forth between AF-On button and * button. 
5. I called Canon and was ready to send the camera in, but rep told me to try it without the 1.4x attached. I did and went out and took approximately 400 shots with no issue. I went back and forth between the two buttons and all worked very well. 
6. I also tested the 1.5.1 update with the 600 mm f11. Again, no issues and I photographed like I normally do going back and forth between AF-On and * button. I photograph mainly birds. 
7. I tested 1.5.1 with my rf 70-200 f4 and it froze once, same setup.
8. I've never had an Error 70 message. 

I just wanted to add this information now and I will continue to record the performance of the R5 with my lenses until I can decide what needs to be sent in, the camera or the lens, or lens with extender. At this point I do not know.

My conditions are similar (R5, 100-500mm, without 1.4 - same back button focus arrangement) except that I had many freezes with 1.5 (necessitating removing the battery to fix), fewer freezes with 1.5.1 (just on-off fix). I have not had any freezes with the 100-500mm + 1.4 extender, but have not used it very often. Clearly Canon has more firmware work to do. Love my pix though.

Same here, pics are amazing with the rf 100-500 and the extender. I was out the other day with the rf 100-400 and had no freezes. Camera performed beautifully. I took lots of shots of wild horses on the river. That lens is incredible also. Hopefully, the R5 will work well with all combinations of lenses/attachments. 

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