Should I get the Canon EOS R10

[carla11]

Hi everyone. im recently getting into photography, i love to take pictures of the night sky and have gotten really good pictures on my phone. i also host volleyball events and want to take some action shots. ive used my friends r50 and some pictures came out blurry. ive done hours and hours of research and keep landing on the R10. i know camera bodys come and go, and lenses are forever. can someone please tell me what lens would be good to capture action shots for outdoor volleyball, and what lens would be good to capture night sky pictures.

[shadowsports]

Although you didn't mention budget, If you have the means, I'd look at a R8 mkII which was announced today.  It will provide superior low light, night time performance.  It has IBIS and an electronic shutter of capable of capturing up to 40 frames a second.  The R10 isn't a bad camera, but for night time sky photography and sports it wouldn't be my first choice.  

[LeeP]

Although I am sour on the R8 II from the standpoint of upgrading from my R8 (i.e. not enough of an advancement for me to take the financial hit of buying a new body), I share your opinion that the R8 II is a great beginner camera even if the price has gotten steeper vis a vis the R8. The R8 II is still a lot of camera for a reasonable price. IBIS seems to address a need that Carla has.

[stevet1]

carla11,

I personally am saving up for an R10 with an 18-150mm lens, so I applaud your choice.

*Grin* 😀

Steve Thomas

[LeeP]

Honest question: what do you find attractive about the R10? I'm genuinely curious.

I have a friend who has been mulling over a new camera for a year who is not a hobbyist.

When I bought in to my first mirrorless I could make a case for an R7 and and R100, but the "tweeners" i.e. the R10 and R50 less so. As you are aware, I went with the "K1000" of the line, the R100.

[stevet1]

Lee,

For me, it's a good all-rounder camera. It's light, portable and does a lot of stuff.

I personally am an APS-C kind of person. Full-frame is just not that attractive to me. 

It's got a 24mp sensor, which is all I need and a Digic X processor, which is what I want.

The best recommendation I ever read was a guy who said, "It's the kind of camera that you just throw it in a bag, and it works."

Steve Thomas

[ebiggs1]

. can someone please tell me what lens would be good to capture action shots for outdoor volleyball, and what lens would be good to capture night sky pictures.”

I will address the lens part of the issue because the right camera and the wrong lens will still be a problem. I never did volleyball until a few years ago I got asked to do the KC Challenge corporate event. I don’t recommend the 50mm lens as a rule but for volleyball it worked great.  For astronomy work I suggest the Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 Lens full manual. I would buy these lenses and give them a go before buying a new camera.

[ebiggs1]

Here’s the point, the best camera in the world will not necessarily make you the best photographer in the world. Of course the new better features are always welcome. The R50 can certainly take astro and volleyball photos. However, as suggested getting the best camera you can afford is the better course of action.

[shadowsports]

Steve,

I can respect your feelings.  The R8 mkII is double the price of a refurbished R10.  In its defence, you're getting quite a bit more camera at that price point. IBIS and 4k/60 video without crop are real pluses.  It's also going to have a more modern focusing and tracking algorithm. 

 For @carla11's benefit. 

These differentiators are what cost more. Since both sensors are 24.2 megapixels, the lower pixel density of the R8 mkII has significantly more light gathering capability than the crop sensor of the R10.  Even though the difference between the two sensors is only about 1.5 stops, the shadow recovery and ISO performance at base ISO between the two sensors is significant for someone looking for cleaner images, shot in dim or low light scenarios.  The R10 shoots a respectable 15 FPS in mechanical shutter, up to 23 in electronic first curtain with a max burst capability of 30 FPS in RAW burst mode with a 75% crop.  These are captured in a single roll-like movie file.  You can go in and extract individual frames.  Usable for some but not everyone.  On the R8 mkII you shoot up to 40 FPS with no crop.  These are individual files. The R10 crops in order to clear it's buffer more quickly. 

It doesn't matter what I would do. I'm only pointing out differentiators between the two body's and making justification for full frame over crop.  There is nothing wrong with the EOS R10, It just wouldn't be my first choice for night sky (especially) and sports.  Maybe we'll get her budget and that's certainly an important factor to be mindful of.  Hope this helps.  🙂

[LeeP]

"It's the kind of camera that you just throw it in a bag, and it works."

Funny, that's what I say about the R100.

Digic X is "better" than Digic 8 for certain, but I didn't need the extra capacities so I chose to save a bundle. I don't do video, or bursts, or shoot fast action as a rule.

It sounds like Carla would indeed be better off with a Digic X camera. Although I do agree with Rick that if th budget allows, an R8 II is worth considering.