SFTP with Canon EOS R5 Mark II

[pedz]

I've tried to set this up for the past hour or so.  I can not even get the camera's MAC address to show up on my arp -an output.  Is there a way I can configure the local network and test it out to make sure the password is correct before moving on to the FTP (or SFTP) set up?  Right now, the only thing I get is that it can not connect to the FTP server.

I have not set the root certificate but I assume that is ok.

I setup a Comm and then set up a Function and then go into Connection Settings and create a "set" using my home network and Mac server.  I noticed in the manual that only Windows is supported but that doesn't make any sense to me so I just assumed it was an error.

[Waddizzle]

What leads you to believe that the camera supports SFTP?  

Just because the camera supports WI-Fi doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s fully networkable. Canon sells accessories for the high end models that can make your camera support FTP.
 
As is out the box, the camera uses Wi-Fi hardware to extend the range and speed of Bluetooth communication with Canon Connect. 

[pedz]

I am not sure you noticed the title: R5 Mark II.  I have both the R5 and the R5 Mk2.  The book for the R5 is confusing but it effectively tells you that it can’t really do FTP.  The Mk2 book, as far as I can see, does not say that.  Plus, the menu system is quite different on the Mk2.

If you can cite me a page number that does, I’ll concede.  I’m definitely not saying you are wrong.  Just hoping for clarification.

[Waddizzle]

My apologies. I’m unable to prove a negative. The basic rule of thumb says if it’s not in writing, then it doesn’t exist. I believe that this is the accessory you need. 

https://www.usa.canon.com/shop/p/battery-grip-bg-r20ep 

[pedz]

Page 704 of the manual has a long list titled "Available Network Features" without any mention of needed add ons.

[pedz]

The manual says this in at least three places: 

Use of wired LAN with the camera requires Battery Grip BG-F20EP or Cooling Fan CD-R20EP (both sold separately )

To me, it implies that a Wi-Fi LAN is supported without the grips.

[davidmullen]

Hi Pedz,

I use an R3, and assume the R5 M2 will have the same networking functionality as the R3. I have the R3 configured to connect wirelessly to my laptop which runs an FTP server app. I can download selected images by pressing the "Set" button. The images are automatically imported into photomechanic via its "Live Ingest" function where I add caption info and then upload to a website via a wired (USB) iphone connection. I would imaging the setup for SFTP would be the same ..

I use a macbook air, so my set up procedure is specific to an apple OS.

1. Create a new network - give it a name and set the IP address of the network manually, typically 192.168.1.101 with subnet mask 255.255.255.0

2. Download an FTP server app (FTPServer) onto your laptop and set up a username and password in the app.

3. Select the new network on the laptop and then start the networking process in the camera menu. I`ve attached 2 images of my Comm setting and Function setting. In the Comm setting use the network IP address (192.168.1.101) of the new network and the subnet mask address as above. In the Function setting screen (FTP) use an IP address like 192.168.1.110, and you will be asked for the ftp username & password that you set up. I have the procedure on a pdf, but cannot attach it here...

[shadowsports]

Good Evening,

Its a coincidence this was posted today.  I was looking at this on my R5 C.  I also looked at the Canon Mobile File Transfer and CTP Professional Apps.  These are for iOS and Android.  The MFT app is being deprecated 11/1 in favor of the CTP App.  These are both subscription based.    

FTP is supported on the R3, R5, R5 C and the R5mkII via its Wi-Fi.  FTPS is supported and appears to be sFTP. 

davidmullen provided screenshots from his R3. 😃

The instructions for the R5 are here.  They are the same.

Canon : Product Manual : EOS R5 : Image Transfer to FTP Servers (start.canon)

R5 C: File transfer (FTP) is supported in Photo Mode via wireless.  There is no native wireless support in Cinema OS Mode on this body 😕 (Boo).  But you can with the WFT-R10A if you don't mind the $1K price tag.  

Page 537 - eosr5c-aug5-photo-en.pdf

R5 mkII - Same as the R3 and R5

Canon : Product Manual : EOS R5 Mark II : Transferring Images to an FTP Server (start.canon)

I haven't used the FTP connection myself, but did review its settings on my camera.  I use Canon Connect when needed.  Thanks for posting this this topic.  I've been meaning to read about it for a while. 🙂 

[p4pictures]

With FTP connections a single device called an FTP server is required to accept connections and transfers from one or multiple FTP clients. Canon cameras that support FTP are clients, you cannot connect to them, they connect to the FTP server. Take the case of many professional sports events, the event organisers may provide a dedicated network connection for the photographers to send images from their cameras to an FTP server for an agency to then distribute. The agency runs the FTP server, and the agency photographers connect to the server to send their images. Canon cameras can be configured to send all images as they are captured, or more commonly send images by pressing a button when the image is on the playback screen.

There are three types of FTP connections, not all types are supported by all cameras.

• FTP - the original version, and least secure
• FTPS - Secure FTP transfer using a root certificate to secure the connection
• SFTP - Secure FTP transfer using a SSH connection 

It is quite common for people to confuse SFTP and FTPS. 

• EOS R5 and EOS R6 support FTP & FTPS
• EOS R6 Mark II, EOS R5 Mark II & EOS R3 support FTP, FTPS & SFTP

[pedz]

What I have found with the R5Mk2 is that sftp does not seem to work.  I got the camera on the house Wi-Fi because I can see the ARP packets via wireshark.  I started a debug ssh process on port 2022 and the camera does not even hit the port.  There are no sftp packets on the network at all.  Now... this is Wi-Fi so the packets from each device are going to the Wi-Fi hub which is also my router.  There is no way I can find to capture packets on my router.  So I can't see 100% of the traffic just packets destined for my laptop and broadcast packets.  But there still should be packets that I'm not seeing.

I also set up the Mac to be its own Wi-Fi hub and I still do not see the packets I should see.

I have not tried FTP.  I see for a low price ($5?) there is an FTP server in the Apple app store BUT...

I don't think this is going to work for me anyway.  To transfer 6G via Wi-Fi is a several minute process in the best of conditions.  To pull the card and transfer the images and videos via a CF card reader is much faster -- roughly 20 times faster by my experiments.  So... I've talked myself out of exploring this further.

As far as the R5, I played with it a couple of years ago and never got it to work either and, at the time, there was somewhat explicit statements in the manual that it was not designed to work without the grip.

So... to be clear... the question is: has anyone gotten SFTP (specifically) working to a Mac without a grip?

What I would really like to see is the ability to just plug the camera in to the USB-C port and have both cards show up on the desktop without any Canon specific apps.  I really don't like foreign apps especially those written by horrible amateurs like Canon on my machine.  The experimentation with their software always leaves me scared to death of their programmers.