Refurbished 80d...blurry out of focus photos.. HELP!

[KevinG1]

Im new to photography, started this year with a rebel t6 that I outgrew fast. I seemed to learn pretty quick and have always shot in manual mode. Quality of my t6 photos are great! Clear, crisp, and so on.

decided to upgrade to a 80d, and picked one up through canon refurbished. Well the majority of my shots come out blurry. For example, i do car photography {stills} and lets say the wheels are out of focus, or the lights... cant seem to get consistent clear crisp photos.

Not sure if its me, or the camera. Seems all of my lenses will do it. Mostly shoot with the canon 50mm 1.4 and nothing comes out clear under f2.8. Best around 4.

Ive tried everything. Tripod, high shutter speed, manual focus.. live view, view finder, tried all different focus point methods. The one wierd thing I noticed is when i used live view today, it showed the image on the screen perfectly in focus and crisp. As soon as the shutter went of it became blurry. That was on a tripod, using 2 sec delay.

Hope someone can help me...

[TTMartin]

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@jrhoffman75 wrote:

OP indicates that using single point AF with center FP gives poor results (i.e. agreement between viewfinder and LiveView, but using one FP up gives good results.

Can anyone explain that other that being due to a camera issue?

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The OP didn't state that, a second poster stated that. The second poster was using a 2D poster for his comparison shots. Even the slightest error in either the lens or the camera (even within tolerance) will show up on a 2D target. That's why Canon recommends doing AF microadjustment where you have foreground and background so you can see where the camera is focusing.

Also see my post above with the addendum from Roger at Lens Rentals. 

[jrhoffman75]

Good clarification. I meant the OP of this particular problemproblem (Naipes) that is being discussed now.

[Waddizzle]

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@RobertTheFat wrote:

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@Waddizzle wrote:

When you use Live View, does it close the shutter to focus?   <— One Shot, when you half press the shutter.

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In Live View, doesn't it, almost by definition, use the sensor to focus? IOW, it couldn't be focusing with the shutter closed?

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 Okay.  I just tested this on my 6D.  

In the Live View menu screen, one of the last red ones, you can set the “AF Method”.  When it is set to “Quick Mode”, then focusing is achieved by dropping the mirror, and using the AF system, and then raising the mirror once focus is locked on a subject.  It is much faster than image sensor focusing, which I guess explains the name.

[KevinG1]

Are you talking about me? Or napies when you said the camere waa bad? You said OP but idk if that was towards me

[Waddizzle]

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@KevinG1 wrote:
Are you talking about me? Or napies when you said the camere waa bad? You said OP but idk if that was towards me

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Your camera is under warranty.  You should get it checked..  For all we know, the delivery box may have been dropped and bounced around a few times before it arrived at your house, and damaged the camera slightly.  It could simply be misaligned.

[TTMartin]

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@KevinG1 wrote:
Are you talking about me? Or napies when you said the camere waa bad? You said OP but idk if that was towards me

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I think it has been pretty well established that your issue was a misunderstanding of the 45 point AF system, and that your 50mm f/1.4 needs AF microadjustment. 

Your AF microadjustment of your 50mm f/1.4 which you said had improved its performance that he said you should undo was what I was referring to, when I said telling you to undo something that worked was nonsense. 

I don't think there is anything wrong with your camera. 

I'm not certain if there is anything wrong with the other posters camera or not, but, eliminating other factors like we did with your camera is important before simply saying send it back.

It is next to impossible to judge how far an AF system is off using a 2D target.

In Canon's AF Microadjustment Guidebook they address this, and recommend a vertical target set up on grass, so you can see where the focus is actually falling. (front or back)

If a camera requires extreme AF Microadjustment (> +/- 15) with all lenses, yes it probably needs a trip into Canon as it is likely out of tolerance or certainly on the edge of it.

However if it requires smaller adjustment with most lenses, or some lenses require positive adjustment and others negative, then that indicates there really isn't an issue with the camera.

For the other poster, forgoing AF Microfocus adjustment and simply sending the camera back in my opinion is a waste of the user and Canon's time. 

[KevinG1]

Im comparing this to my friend who's using a 6d with the same lens,50mm1.4, and he shots car photography at 1.4 with no issues at all.

[Waddizzle]

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@KevinG1 wrote:
Im comparing this to my friend who's using a 6d with the same lens,50mm1.4, and he shots car photography at 1.4 with no issues at all.

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Bad lens.  Let him test your lens on his camera body, and vice versa.

[KevinG1]

[KevinG1]