R5 Custom mode and coming back from sleep resets settings to initial from custom mode

[osya_bender]

Here is the use case:

- Set camera to custom mode, say C1 that has shutter speed 1/400 configured for it.

- While in C1 shoot as usual adjusting shutter speed as need, say to 1/125

- Let camera go to sleep

- Wake the camera up

Observe shutter speed is reset to 1/400

I'd expect this not to be the case because letting camera going to sleep and waking it up is not the same (shouldn't be) as turning it off and then on.

If you enable autoupdate for the custom settings it will keep updating it with whatever you choose duting shotting but this kind of defeats the purpose of the custom mode in my opinion, where you are guaranteed to always start from the same set of settings when switch to that mode.

[Tronhard]

While you digest the quote that I sent you.  Can you tell me what drove you to assign your M settings to a custom setting in the first place.  If you simply set the mode to M, the camera will return to the settings you dialled in last time you used it.  If you use these settings consistently, you can choose to change one single setting such as shutter speed and it will return to that setting if the camera powers down.
The custom modes are really useful when one is trying to customize some aspect of the camera's operation when it would otherwise require significant changes in multiple locations. 

You are going to get changes in the light available, so if in M mode you use the same set ISO and Aperture, then you only need to change shutter speed and it will hold, even if the camera is turned off.

If you otherwise shoot in Av or Tv modes for other situations, then they will best react to assigning those configurations to the C1 - C3 modes.

[aneuens]

just one more who thinks that this behavior is plain stupid without speaking it out. I get more and more convinced that canon will not be for me, I have other things to do than figuring out, why I again missed another shot because the camera again came back on with some setting changed 😞

[aneuens]

Hi Trevor,

in first place I was just copying the settings of a professional wild life photographer (as I was new to the R5 and Canon) and I expected to be able to have the most common configurations handy for quick switches. i'll try to only use the M mode and if that solves my troubles but now I need some sleep, we have almost 04:00 here in Europe 😉 

[Tronhard]

Fair enough.  Better to approach these things with a clear head. 😲

[r1ch]

Other people in this threat report the issue. I am sorry you cannot reproduce it. It is by default on C1-3 if you don't change anything.

[r1ch]

That is the problem, I don't want to save my settings to the card or to the C1, they are temp settings that should not be changed until I turn off the camera or change to C2 then back to C1. I have already mentioned this and so have others.

[Tronhard]

 Part of the challenge is that multiple people are contributing to this  thread and I am having conversations with several people, and that is hugely confusing.  Normally, only one person engages with a thread and we will respond to that person.   I have you, and Anuens both giving me information and responding to my responses to them.

Let's get back to the really, really basic question.   Why do you find it necessary to have a M mode assigned to a Custom Shooting Mode in the first place?  Since M mode allows you to set and keep aperture, shutter speed and ISO settings locked and change them when you want, and they are not impacted by a power down of the camera it is a mystery to me why this is assigned to another layer of complication.

[r1ch]

Osay_bender wrote this. It cannot be made any clearer.

Here is the use case:

- Set camera to custom mode, say C1 that has shutter speed 1/400 configured for it.

- While in C1 shoot as usual adjusting shutter speed as need, say to 1/125

- Let camera go to sleep

- Wake the camera up

Observe shutter speed is reset to 1/400

[Tronhard]

 Oh, yes.. a third voice.  What is unclear is the need for the first statement:
Set camera to custom mode,  WHY?
M mode is made to set configurations and lock them in place until the user makes the effort to change them Why then would you assign them to a custom setting when that adds a whole bunch of other factors to do with managing the other modes, like Av, Tv etc.  Which is what it was designed for?

Let me make one thing clear.  YOU are obviously frustrated that the system does not do what you want in the way your expect it to, I am frustrated because I am trying to hold a conversations with several people. of obviously different skill levels and that really confusing.  The others have given up in disgust and I am hanging in there but my patience with your hyper critical attitude is wearing thin.

[r1ch]

You said "Set camera to custom mode, WHY?"  Why have the feature if you can't use it?

I wasn't using M mode, that may have been an example.

I use C1 to have my back button AF set up for 2 buttons. On is for eye tracking, the other is for spot AF. I MAY have my exposure compensation set to plu1 one overexposed FOR EXAMPLE

I set to AV and wide open, set shutter speed for minimum of 2000 and Auto ISO. If I shoot a snowy egret, I MAY temporarily set the exposure compensation for a stop less so I don't blow the highlights, if I change to shooting a blue herron, I MAY change my exposure compensation  back. If the camera goes to sleep (turns itself off) within a minute, it will change my ev compensation back to plus 1 stop over exposed because that is what I have programed in C1. The camera will not allow me to keep using the exposure compensation for I want it to do and it changes it every minute. As another poster said, his Nikon, Sony and list of different camera DO NOT DO THIS. Only the R5