R5 Custom mode and coming back from sleep resets settings to initial from custom mode

[osya_bender]

Here is the use case:

- Set camera to custom mode, say C1 that has shutter speed 1/400 configured for it.

- While in C1 shoot as usual adjusting shutter speed as need, say to 1/125

- Let camera go to sleep

- Wake the camera up

Observe shutter speed is reset to 1/400

I'd expect this not to be the case because letting camera going to sleep and waking it up is not the same (shouldn't be) as turning it off and then on.

If you enable autoupdate for the custom settings it will keep updating it with whatever you choose duting shotting but this kind of defeats the purpose of the custom mode in my opinion, where you are guaranteed to always start from the same set of settings when switch to that mode.

[r1ch]

Well unfortunately after more testing they did not fix it. I changed the settings to make it work better for me. I had never changed C3. When I changed it to C3. I seen the same behavior. By default, the camera is set to shut down after 1 min to save battery life. I chanced the default settings from 1 min to the longest setting 10 mins. The camera stays on and does not sleep (it shuts down). Once you half press the shutter, after 10 mins, the setting are reset from my temp setting which is sad. So no, the problem has not been "fixed" and the battery drain remains. So it is not resolved. But I have to say this is still the best camera I have owned. But I don't shoot video, if I did, I would complain about the over heating and video limits like the video guys do.

[Tronhard]

Sorry to learn this has not resolved your issue.  The method I suggested of using the EV compensation dial does work and that actually makes sense to me, although I acknowledge it does not seem convenient to you.

All the C1-3 settings should do, as I understand and use them, is to give you an environment within which you still manipulate the controls according to the specifics of the light and movement of the subject and camera.  I have used that same principle with Nikon and Sony cameras and they have behaved fairly consistently with that principle.

As to the overheating issue.  I too do not take videos so the issues of overheating have never cropped up for me. Again, this was mitigated to some extend by firmware updates, but really for those serious about video, the R5C is the way to go.  Not only does it have venting more suitable, but it also has software more aligned to the needs of the serious videographer.  I always thought of the R5 and R6 as stills cameras that did video as somewhat of a sideline.  I think the marketing people at Canon made a huge blunder with the R5 upon its release by over-hyping the video features to the detriment of a great stills camera.

[r1ch]

 I am I am not sure what you mean the EV compensation works it does not work.  You said "If the camera goes into 'sleep mode' or power-save mode, and you press the button to return it to life the exposure compensation is still there. Does that not solve your problem?"  The compensation gets changed when the camera automatically turns itself off After a minute. That doesn't make sense for anyone which is why this thread exists people see it as a problem. If your camera keeps changing the settings every minute that is a bad thing it has a mind of its own and you cannot control it.  Cannon knew what they were doing they hyped the camera for sales and people bought it and were not happy and know the the firmware updates did not mitigate it much. People who use the camera as it was intended as a hybrid run into the overheating problem the overheating problem and had to buy a different camera. They were pretty upset and I would be too. Just because the R5 is a good still's camera still means it's a failure. Because if you remove the video function half the people who bought them would not have

[Waddizzle]

Are you registering the camerasettings before you use C1?

I suspect what the custom shooting modes are designed to is not what you are looking to do

[r1ch]

You don't have to register the camera settings. They are set that way by default. I never make changes to C3 and it exhibits the behavior by default. But yes for C1 and C2 I did register the camerasettings, I assume you mean saving them using the menus.

If you want C1 to change your settings every minute without your permission, then yes, this feature is for you. I don't want any feature changing my settings unless i explicietly want it to or I program the camera to. I know of no reason anyone would want a camera to change it's own settings every minute.by itself.

[Tronhard]

You have said: "EV compensation ... does not work." and "The compensation gets changed when the camera automatically turns itself off After a minute."  That is not what happens on my camera with the configuration that I have, I tested it before offering the statement and it works fine when I have one of my C-settings selected. 

It seems to me there is something in your configuration that is screwing this up.

So, here is my suggestion. You can save your current configuration to a card, if you do so, and then do a full reset to return the camera to defaults, then add your custom settings one by one, testing at each stage you should come across the setting that is causing you the issue.

[tlinn]

I have the same problem. Auto power off should be treated as a sleep mode that does not reset the Custom shooting mode to the stored settings. Only a power cycle using the physical switch or moving out of that particular custom shooting mode should cause a reset. The two options available to R5 users now are not ideal as they both have drawbacks: I don't want to permanently save temporary changes nor do I want my temporary changes reset unintentionally. My workaround is to set the "Auto power off" setting to at least 10 minutes for C1-C3 to prevent a reset for at least that long. In all other modes, it is set lower to save battery.

[Waddizzle]

The custom shooting modes are not designed to work that way.  Save your settings to the SD card.  Save this menu function in a custom menu for quick access.

https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EOS-DSLR-Mirrorless-Cameras/Does-save-settings-on-card-with-R5-sa... 

[aneuens]

pardon me, but as I said, I am novice to canon, so please explain, how not to use a custom mode if the camera will retain the settings that way?

I especially configured C1 for birds in flight and you have to do a number of settings to the AF configuration to be quick and to program back button focus on af-on, * and AF-point in 3 different flavors, to do what I need in different situations. for the rest you want to be working fully manual. exposure time has to be 1/1000 or faster, aperture is usually open as you never have enough light for the high shutterspeeds that you need and ISO should be as low as possible to reduce noise but as high as required to get the right shutterspeed as otherwise you get motion blur. now I am sitting in the hide, there is sun, the birds are quick, I rise iso to 1600 an shuttertime to 1/4000 and I wait for the birds to show up, they stop by my hide about every 20 minutes, while I wait the timer runs out and the cam goes to powersave, the birds show up, I touch a button, the settings are gone. except if I enable auto update, but in that case, the stored settings are modified and next time on a different location, C1 comes with the settings of the previous day with bright sun rather than the average basic setting that I programmed to C1 and that should stay there as they are a good point of start for any situation(reason why auto update needs to be off) C2 will be configured for people, c3 for landscape, so I can have a quick access to my preferred setting for the actual subject. after I recall of of the custom modes, these should be loaded as defaults an then I adapt those settings to the actual situation, these changes should be retained also when the camera goes to powersave (or even if I turn it of) when I change subject or if the location is that much different that I better start of with my average people settings from C2 I load C2 again, but the camera should not decide to do so for me (for example if I have to turn it of to change a battery) 

[Tronhard]

I wonder if I am beginning to see the light (so to speak 😋) from that massive continuous dump of information (paragraph breaks help for digestion!) 🙂 

As I understand it: you are recording a Custom setting of a Manual mode, and that includes a specific shutter speed, a specific aperture and you set the ISO to auto.  When you adjust the shutter speed and let the camera go back to 'sleep' the camera defaults to the original shutter speed.  The exposure compensation does not work to retain those setting in this situation.  Is that a summary of the situation?