New M-5

[RobertTheFat]

Does the new M-5 advance the mirrorless ball (other than in the obvious way of finally providing a built-in eye-level viewfinder)?

The specs are rather vague regarding the camera's aotofocus system. One can read them as implying that there is no manual selection of AF points.

[jrhoffman75]

I read it's based a lot on 80D.

[TTMartin]

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@RobertTheFat wrote:

The specs are rather vague regarding the camera's aotofocus system. One can read them as implying that there is no manual selection of AF points.

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Autofocus 49 AF points

• Contrast Detect (sensor)
• Phase Detect
• Multi-area
• Center
• Selective single-point
• Tracking
• Single
• Continuous
• Touch
• Face Detection
• Live View

[Waddizzle]

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@TTMartin wrote:

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@RobertTheFat wrote:

The specs are rather vague regarding the camera's aotofocus system. One can read them as implying that there is no manual selection of AF points.

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Autofocus 49 AF points

• Contrast Detect (sensor)
• Phase Detect
• Multi-area
• Center
• Selective single-point
• Tracking
• Single
• Continuous
• Touch
• Face Detection
• Live View

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You're probably right.  In Creative Modes, I haven't selected an AF point in my M3.  It seemed to have defaulted to the center AF point, One Shot Mode, in the Creative modes, which is just what I wanted.

[TTMartin]

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@RobertTheFat wrote:

Does the new M-5 advance the mirrorless ball (other than in the obvious way of finally providing a built-in eye-level viewfinder)?

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The Dual-pixel AF sensor is a game changer for mirrorless cameras. My only question is why it took Canon so long to put it in their mirrorless camera. 

[Waddizzle]

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@RobertTheFat wrote:

Does the new M-5 advance the mirrorless ball (other than in the obvious way of finally providing a built-in eye-level viewfinder)?

The specs are rather vague regarding the camera's aotofocus system. One can read them as implying that there is no manual selection of AF points.

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If it is anything like the M3, then it is confusing.  I still haven't quite figured it out, mainly because I haven't spent the time.  That, and I mainly use manual focus lenses with it, like a Rokinon 14mm, which saves battery life.  

If I remember correctly, out of the box, the M3 defaulted to the center AF point, as if you had manually selected it when you are in creative modes.  It is supposed to have something like 45 AF points, but I have never seen all of them.

[ebiggs1]

Until cameras like the M5 work just like a cell phone they will never be popular.  The M5 is getting close.

[Waddizzle]

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@ebiggs1 wrote:

Until cameras like the M5 work just like a cell phone they will never be popular.  The M5 is getting close.

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A cell phone?  These cameras are starting to rival DSLR performance..Their compact size make them ideal for travel.  They take much better pictures than a cell phone.  Remember that castle I posted several months ago?  M3 and EF 40mm pancake.

One of my sons is an executive chef.  The M3, combined with the EF lens adapter and a quality lens, can turn out some excellent macro photos of his finsished plates of food.  The camera's tilting LCD screen, and lighter weight and size, make it GREAT for taking shots in tight places.

It uses a 24 MP APS-C sensor and a DIGIC 6 processor, which is the same stuff found in the 80D and T6s. The M5 seems like it could be an ever better camera than the M3, with the integrated viewfinder.  I got a lucky deal on the viewfinder when I purchased my M3. 

[ebiggs1]

"Until cameras like the M5 work just like a cell phone they will never be popular."

[RobertTheFat]

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@ebiggs1 wrote:

"Until cameras like the M5 work just like a cell phone they will never be popular."

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I'm not sure I get the point you're trying to make; in fact I'm pretty sure I don't. But I don't think I'd agree with it if I did.

Whether one likes it or not, mirrorless cameras are almost certainly the wave of the future. Here's a prediction: Fifteen years from now, a third of the cohort of serious photographers who now use a DSLR exclusively will have never seen one.