10-11-2020 01:07 PM - edited 10-11-2020 01:08 PM
Hello from a newbie. I have a Canon Rebel T7i. I have been using my 75-300mm lens to capture my son’s high school football game. They are now a 7-0 team and are going to the playoffs, for sure. It’s my son’s senior year, so I don’t want any more lost shots to blur. I am struggling with capturing non-blurry action shots. I realize I need to get out of these auto programs into manual mode. The fields are well lit, as they have to be for football. I had a suggestion from another "fairly new to photgraphy" person of 1/400 on the shutter speed (this camera’s range is from 30 to 1/4000). That seems slow to me, given that the range is so vast. Should it be quicker? I also had the suggestion of the aperture at 8? Does that sound right? I am having difficulties trying to decide leaving ISO on auto or setting it. Any suggestions?
10-11-2020 08:51 PM - edited 10-11-2020 08:55 PM
Hi Jennifer.
I will post my screenshot first and then talk about it.
Your exposure triangle values show that you are definitely light limited.
f/4.5 is the maximum lens opening your current lens can provide.
While your camera can go higher than ISO 6400 quality really starts to fall off.
With those two settings (I can't tell from the metadata what mode your camera was in) the camera selected a shutter speed of 1/1/25 - too slow for what you want to do. It's even to slow for handholding your lens at 135mm.
You also have the camera set on AI Focus. That is an automatic sensing mode where the camera evaluates an image and decides whether to set One Shot AF or AI Servo. AI Servo is a mode where tghe camera will measure the speed of an object approaching the camera and do some math to adjust focus so that the image is in focus when the shutter fires.
I forgot to highlight this, but the camera is also on automatic AF point selection.
I suggest you try the following settings. If you don't have the manual you can download a PDF from the Canon website.
1. select a single center focus point.
2. set the camera to Tv mode and set 1/640 as discussed above. This will lock the shutter speed at 1/640.
3. set Auto ISO
4. set One Shot AF - put the red square on your son
With these settings the camera will maximize the lens opening first, and then, depending on the lighting conditions, start increasing ISO. You may get a noisy image, but that is preferable to a fuzzy image. As Rodger said, you can try lowering Tv to 1/500 and see how that works. If you get a sharp image then you will have the benefit of lower ISO - lower digital noise.
Another option would be full manual with aperture at f/4, but given the low lighting levels you will be at max anyway and Tv gives you one less thing to worry about setting if you happen to change lenses.
The T7i is a very capable camera, and the 70-200 f/4L that Waddizzle recommended is an outstanding lens. One step down from the f/2.8L version you will frequently see on NFL sidelines.
10-12-2020 05:25 AM
The AI Focus mode setting is a direct result of selecting the "No Flash" automatic shooting mode. This is locked into the camera's behavior. Using one of the Creative Shooting modes , P, Tv, Av, or M, would allow the user to select a better AF mode, like One Shot or AI Servo.
The biggest problem that i see with sample photo is motion blur in the subjects, which is due to the relatively slow shutter speed for action photography. Your sample also shows an f/4.5 aperture. If you had a faster lens, f/2.8 or faster, you could have easily doubled your shutter speed, which have helped to significantly reduce the amount of subject motion blur.
Photographing Friday Night Lights is a pretty demaniding challenge. I see that your focal length is under 200mm, which would suggest that a 70-200mm f/2.8 lens might be beneficial. In fact, any lens with a maximum aperture of f/2.8 or faster would take a lot of the bite out of the challlenge of night time sports photography.
10-12-2020 10:03 AM
Good morning, John.
WOW! I am astounded! I did not know that the pictures could provide so much detail. I am assuming (still new at this) that that information in stored in file's properties? May I ask how one gets to that information? Is it a program?
I really appreciate the information you provided and the suggestions as well.
Thank you!!
~Jennifer
Honestly, everyone, I am so appreciative of all the feedback and suggestions!
10-12-2020 10:06 AM
Good morning, Waddizzle.
I am definitely getting the faster lens! Thank you for all your help and guidance. 🙂
~Jennifer
10-12-2020 10:09 AM
Good morning Jennifer.
It's all available, along with editing capability, using the free Canon Digital Photo Professional.
10-12-2020 10:18 AM
AWESOME!! THANK YOU!!!
~Jennifer
10-12-2020 10:29 AM
You're welcome.
I noticed the image you posted was a JPEG.
To get the best results when processing your images, especially the nightime images where you will most likely be needing some noise reduction, I recommend you shoot RAW. DPP and most other editing software seamlessly import the RAW images.
If you want images for quick emailing or sharing you could shoot RAW plus JPEG.
THis is based on an earlier version of DPP, but the basics are the same.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIqd1OTcWLQ&list=PLCD7AA7E58615DDBB&index=1
What software are you currently using?
10-12-2020 10:45 AM
I copy my images to a file and when I want to crop or adjust, I just use the edit options in Photos. I will look in my manual for RAW. I've only heard of it in this thread. I have A LOT to learn!
Thanks again!
~Jennifer
10-12-2020 11:19 AM - edited 10-12-2020 11:19 AM
Jennifer,
Credit to Wadizzle, jrhoffman75 and wq9nsc...
These guys are real pros, and rodger always has the best footbal pics.
The data you asked about is called EXIF data and is embedded in each photograph.
I suggest you install Canon's DPP (Digital Photo Professiional) which can display this infor for you. Its free.
EDIT - Guys beat me to it...
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10-12-2020 12:14 PM
" I have a Canon Rebel T7i. I have been using my 75-300mm lens ..."
I didn't read thoroughly all the posts up to now but I did glance at them. Most of what was said is valid but some is not, IMHO, of course. Some of what I am going to suggest might have already been said so bear with me.
The three most important things in sports photography is location, location and location. Yes, it is where you shoot from. Along with this comes knowledge of the game or sport. You need to know how football is played. Shooting from the bleachers for instance or being on the opposite side of the field when the action is at the other goal line will result in failure. Even if you have the best gear in the world. You have to know the sport. You have to anticipate what is going to happen. Can you shoot from the side lines? That is best.
Your lens is considered to be a slow lens. It is f4 only at 75mm. It is not f4 even at 76mm as it starts its slide down to f5.6. So, a faster lens is a good idea. I read where someone suggested you use Tv mode. That is wrong because we already know the lens is the weak link here. You need to use Av mode and set the lens to its widest aperture. Then the camera can select the fastest SS possible. Why is it this way? Because that lens will be at its widest aperture most likely all the time anyway. I also would select a high fixed ISO number. Try a high as you can get decent photos, say 1600 or even 3200.
You need to set One shot and just the center focus point. Turn all the others off. You need to use Raw file format never jpg. You need a good post editor. Canon has a free one called DPP4. You can d/l it from the Canon web site. Most of the conversion form Raw to jpg will be automatic. However using Raw you will have a greater deal of adjustment possible.
What I have suggested will get you the best possible results from what you have. I have taught it to many Moms and dads over the years. You will not get every shot. Nobody does, not even the best of the best out there gets every shot.
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