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Eos R5 Exposure simulation with Flash attached feature request.

tobylong
Contributor

Hi, just a R5 feature request to be able to allocate a button to preview ambient exposure when a flash is attached to the hotshoe. My current workaround/hack is to enable Expo. simulation and assign DOF preview button to Cropping/aspect ratio, I can then press DOF twice to simulate ambient exposure then 1/2 press shutter button to return to the normal viewfinder when flash is attached. Would be better to just be able to select it once and use the shutter 1/2 press to go back. Unless I am missing something? T

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Bassam80
Apprentice

I have searched everywhere for a solution for this, but nowhere to be found. It is annoying having to turn off the flash in order to see the exposure simulation (in order to expose for the ambient light,and then set flash power accordingly). It would be great if we could set a button to toggle to exposure simulation when the flash is on. Please Canon, this should be an easy fix.

Bassam80
Apprentice

Thanks for the workaround hint, I just set it and it works. Would be good if Canon just gave us this option through a firmware update.

If you are describing a button that can toggle ExpSim on and off, then that feature is already available.  Some photographers use a light meter to measure ambient light.

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I dont want to use a light meter. I just want to be able to toggle to the exposure simulation when the flash is on. That is all. 

jonathanhophoto
Contributor

I've been using Exposure Simulation ever since the EOS R first came out then onto R5C (or R5).  Only it was today I experienced a scenario that never occurred to me. 

I'm thinking what the original post is really trying to ask is that they are using either Flash/Wireless Flash Trigger (E.g Pocket Wizard, Godox Wireless Trigger, Profoto Air Trigger) and when composing and focusing, the image goes dark despite turning off Exposure Simulation. 

The Scenario occurred today made me realise that this was something photographers need a work around.   

Scene:  Shooting Single/Group Portraits in a office space and has large back lit windows behind the subjects.  

Lights: Flash Speedlite off camera or Strobes (whatever flash you use doesn't actually contribute to the issue).

Issue: When framing up the shot, the View finder or LCD goes dark and have trouble focusing to see the subjects.

Camera Settings:  1/200 F11 ISO 100

Canon Mirrorless cameras have Exposure Simulation on by default and is useful as it is What you see is what you get (for Natural Light shooters)

When a flash speedlite or trigger is attatched to the hotshoe, Exposure Simulation turns off so you can see (during the metered time frame and can be set from 4sec - 30mins).  Once past the metered time frame, Exposure Simulation "for the current exposure settings" will turn on automatically.  However if the scene has a really bright background, the entire image will darken down making the subjects in the foreground very hard to see/compose and focus. 

In this situation the work around would be:

1. Turn off Exposure Simulation

2. Choose Spot Metering, (a circle in the middle of the screen will appear) use the circle to point to the subject and the camera will automatically expose whatever is in the circle so you can see and focus but you will have to recompose the shot. (this will be difficult if you are in Servo Mode and trying to track a subject that is dark.  Probably better in One Shot).  

Alternatively use Modelling lights to brighten up the subjects.

So far that's what I was able to do in that tricky situation.  I never noticed it as I was always using Modelling lights or simply the scene was overall very balanced and Evaluative Metering work generally quite well.  It was only the backlit situation that made it difficult.  I may of overcomplicated it with all the bracket explanations so if anyone wants to correct me please do so!

Thanks!

In some situations despite making EVF behave like OVF, the ambient light exposure is still effected by the metering mode chosen. 
It happened to me today when doing portraits in front a lot a large window that ran across the entire wall.  So the subjects went dark and the back window was exposed which made the subjects go completely dark.  So I set the meter mode to spot and pointed the middle circle to the subjects and it brightened them up so I can focus.  But then had to re-compose (haven’t used this technique for along time since we got 61+ focus points to use). 

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