03-31-2020 07:05 PM
Canon seems to be determined to no longer be an also-ran in the mirrorless camera arena. While increasing numbers of enthusiasts and pros have chosen the mirrorless competition, the company really seems to be stepping it up now and I applaud its efforts.
While all the attention seems to be on the R5 right now, and justifiably so, I look forward to seeing what the lower-priced R6 offers. If the leaks so far prove to be true, then the R6 will share some similarities with the R5, among them IBIS and the 5's continuous shooting speed of 20fps with the electronic shutter and 12fps with the mechanical. But it is the rumored R6 20MP sensor that has captivated the attention of many. There is speculation that it could be the same one used in the 1DX Mark III. Interesting if true, though the EVF and weather sealing will not be up to R5 standards. Interesting times ahead for sure, and I hope that Canon delivers big this time.
04-01-2020 10:18 AM
Still not interested!
04-01-2020 12:19 PM
I'll hit BestBuy to hold an R5 when released, but I'm not going backwards in resolution so the R6 is off the table for me.
From my perspective, its going to come down to battery life. Doesn't mean I'll get one, but that will be one of the top of my list factors affecting my next body purchase. My 6D2 stil has plenty of life left in her.
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04-01-2020 12:47 PM
@shadowsports wrote:I'll hit BestBuy to hold an R5 when released, but I'm not going backwards in resolution so the R6 is off the table for me.
From my perspective, its going to come down to battery life. Doesn't mean I'll get one, but that will be one of the top of my list factors affecting my next body purchase. My 6D2 stil has plenty of life left in her.
I agree that 20MP seems lackluster by today's standards. But there will be other advantages of the R6, including IBIS, its shooting speed and price, chief among them. I think these factors will appeal to enthusiasts who are taking their first steps into full frame.
For me, I will go with B&H as it has no physical presence in California, thus I won't have to pay sales tax. And my experiences thus far with B&H have been stellar.
I do agree with you about battery life, though. While we can't expect battery life for mirrorless to equal that of most DSLRs, due to the EVF, it has been improving, and I am hopeful that we can get a minimum of 700 shots out of whatever comes with the R5. Some mirrorless cameras have batteries with CIPA ratings in the low 300s, which would suck. We shall see.
04-01-2020 01:04 PM
@shadowsports wrote:I'll hit BestBuy to hold an R5 when released, but I'm not going backwards in resolution so the R6 is off the table for me.
From my perspective, its going to come down to battery life. Doesn't mean I'll get one, but that will be one of the top of my list factors affecting my next body purchase. My 6D2 stil has plenty of life left in her.
I agree. I think the R Series is an excellent upgrade path for Rebel and M Series users. The R Series is definitely the way to go should I need a replacement if one of my current bodies fail. Buy a used 1D body. They're GREAT!
I spuing for a used 1D Mark IV three years ago, instead of buying a 7D2, for action photography. Even though it has a lower resolution than my 6D and 6D2, the colors and contrast that it captures more than makes up for it.
You really do not notice a difference until you start pixel peeping, or cropping very deeply. I tracked this guy all the way across the pond, from take off to landing. The lens is the Sigma 150-600mm "C" after the AF firmware update.
Pay visit to KEH. Besides a 1Dx series, the 16MP 1D Mark IV or the 21MP 1Ds Mark III are the only used 1D bodies I would recommend buying.
The 1D4 has an APS-H crop sensor, the wider ISO range, and faster frame rate. The 1Ds3 has a full frame sensor. Both cameras have the same AF system. According to a pro sports photographer friend, both bodies have pretty much the same usable ISO ranges. I rarely go past ISO 3200 on the 1D4, which is the extended upper limit of the 1Ds3. My friend says the 1Ds3 is cleaner at the higher ISO settings than the 1D4.
04-01-2020 01:13 PM
@John_SD wrote:
@shadowsports wrote:I'll hit BestBuy to hold an R5 when released, but I'm not going backwards in resolution so the R6 is off the table for me.
From my perspective, its going to come down to battery life. Doesn't mean I'll get one, but that will be one of the top of my list factors affecting my next body purchase. My 6D2 stil has plenty of life left in her.
I agree that 20MP seems lackluster by today's standards. But there will be other advantages of the R6, including IBIS, its shooting speed and price, chief among them. I think these factors will appeal to enthusiasts who are taking their first steps into full frame.
For me, I will go with B&H as it has no physical presence in California, thus I won't have to pay sales tax. And my experiences thus far with B&H have been stellar.
I do agree with you about battery life, though. While we can't expect battery life for mirrorless to equal that of most DSLRs, due to the EVF, it has been improving, and I am hopeful that we can get a minimum of 700 shots out of whatever comes with the R5. Some mirrorless cameras have batteries with CIPA ratings in the low 300s, which would suck. We shall see.
The resolution difference between 20MP, 24MP, and 26MP is not a great as you seem to think. The shot below is 12MP. Home of the best hamburgers on the planet, IMHO. Legend says they invented the hamburger.
I am not so sure I want an IBIS sensor, either. Cleaning them is not as straight forward as a conventional sensor. The IBIS mechanism adds $300 to $400 hundred to the cost of a replacement sensor. Sony has been waging a price war to corner the mirrorless market.
04-01-2020 01:15 PM
My T6S is 24 MP and seems pretty adequate. Besides if these are larger, Full Frame pixels, think of the noise performance!
04-01-2020 01:46 PM
@kvbarkley wrote:My T6S is 24 MP and seems pretty adequate. Besides if these are larger, Full Frame pixels, think of the noise performance!
The 12MP photo of Louis Lunch was captured by a full frame camera. Looks fine to me. Lots of fine details.
04-01-2020 02:20 PM - edited 04-01-2020 02:24 PM
@John_SD wrote:
@shadowsports wrote:I'll hit BestBuy to hold an R5 when released, but I'm not going backwards in resolution so the R6 is off the table for me.
From my perspective, its going to come down to battery life. Doesn't mean I'll get one, but that will be one of the top of my list factors affecting my next body purchase. My 6D2 stil has plenty of life left in her.
I agree that 20MP seems lackluster by today's standards. But there will be other advantages of the R6, including IBIS, its shooting speed and price, chief among them. I think these factors will appeal to enthusiasts who are taking their first steps into full frame.
For me, I will go with B&H as it has no physical presence in California, thus I won't have to pay sales tax. And my experiences thus far with B&H have been stellar.
I do agree with you about battery life, though. While we can't expect battery life for mirrorless to equal that of most DSLRs, due to the EVF, it has been improving, and I am hopeful that we can get a minimum of 700 shots out of whatever comes with the R5. Some mirrorless cameras have batteries with CIPA ratings in the low 300s, which would suck. We shall see.
I agree with your favorable opinion of B&H, but you may be in for a disappointment. Within the past few months they've started charging me sales tax (for shipments to Massachusetts or Pennsylvania, and I don't think they have a presence in either state).
As for battery life, I really don't think it's an "A" issue. Yes, changing batteries is annoying, but it should take less than 15 seconds if you anticipate it and keep your spare batteries close at hand.
04-01-2020 02:50 PM
With B&H, they have a captive "payboo" credit card and they eat the cost of the tax if you use that card. I use it for all of my B&H orders but do NOT do this if you aren't planning to pay the balance immediately because the interest rates are absurdly high (which is how they can afford to pay the sales tax for you). I have used this for several large purchases since they changed the policy (several "great white" primes, celestron telescope, accessories) and it is very worthwhile but I keep expecting them to cancel my card since I pay the balance as soon as the charge appears so they are losing money on me 🙂
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