EOS R6 Mark III How to retain video settings like on EOS R6

[o0spyder0o]

Apologies if this sounds silly. On my original R6 I setup the video settings to what I wanted and then just rotated the dial to the video camera icon and pressed the red button anytime I wanted to record. If I hadn’t set it to manual I just left the settings on 60fps or 30fps depending on what I was needing.

Now I have the mk3, I switch the left lever to the video setting but what about the dial on the top right? I see if I choose the av or tv mode it acts like a manual video setup of aperture, shutter and iso on the display screen. If I just want the camera to record with it auto compensating for aperture and shutter etc, what should it be left on? Which makes me think there’s more steps to take than just going from the photo/video switch and pressing record.

Would changing the top dial to something more automatic now cause the fps to be out of sync of say a 30fps setting if it means it goes over 100+ shutter speed depending on the lighting? 

Should I just set the shutter to twice the frame rate and leave the rest alone?

Or I’ve got this completely wrong and missed the boat entirely.

Thank you

[stevet1]

o0spyder0o,

I don't know if your camera behaves the way mine does or not, but I have a T8i, and if I set my camera to Av or Tv or P modes, the camera defaults to P mode, ant it chooses the aperture and shutter speed. It defaults to a shutter speed twice what I've chosen for my frame rate.

See what your manual says about shooting in Av or Tv modes.

I prefer shooting this way, because my camera instantly adjusts for the changing light as I move from shadows to bright sunlight.

If choosing 1/60 for a 30fps is going to let in too much light, some photographers will attach a 3 stop ND filter to cut down on the light.

Steve Thomas

[o0spyder0o]

Hi Steven. If I have it in av mode then it seems to be fixed at the fps setting in the menu  and I can adjust the av value, so I don’t get smooth recording as then the shutter matches the fps setting. If I use tv mode then I can double the shutter speed for a smoother recording and let the camera handle the aperture. So I’ve decided the best option is to put it on M mode and set the shutter and adjust the av to suit the situation. That way I can get some depth of field if it needs it etc. I just wondered if there was a way for the camera to automatically keep the shutter doubled and for it to handle the rest but this may be what leaving it in photo mode and just pressing record to instantly switch to video recording is for. It might make for better video if I go fully manual I guess. Thanks for the feedback.

[stevet1 · Accepted solution]

o0spyder0o,

Yes. You could handle it that way. Put your camera in Manual and pick a shutter speed 2X what your frame rate is. The downside here is that at 1/60 when shooting at 30fps, if you are shooting a really bright sky or a brightly lit room, 1/60 is going to let in a lot of light, and you are going to have to compensate for that, either by narrowing your aperture, or lowering your ISO, or both.

If you are in a situation with rapidly changing conditions, like the sun peeking in and out of clouds, you're going to be spending a lot of time fiddling with the dials.

If you reach the limits where you can't narrow your aperture any more, or you can't lower your ISO any lower, that's where a neutral density filter might come in handy.

Or, let's take another scenario. Say you've got a subject that you really want to zoom in on and isolate him or her and blur out the rest of the crowd. You might want to use a wider aperture for a smaller depth of field. But again, with a 1/60 shutter speed and an aperture of f/5.6 or f/2.8, you are going to be letting in a lot of light. You can only lower your ISO so much. Here again, a neutral density filter might come in handy.

Manual is good for controlled conditions, where the light is not changing.

Steve Thomas

[o0spyder0o]

Yes I was hoping to just press record and not worry about much else, let the camera take care of it. I’m not too bothered about getting cinematic Spielberg footage, just sharp 4K footage. I never had to bother with anything except choosing 30fps or 60fps on the mki, the camera seemed to do everything else, handled the iso, aperture and shutter and I always had great video, there must be a way on this upgraded model to do the same. No one seems to go to that detail on youtube reviews etc.

[o0spyder0o]

I found you can put it on P or FV mode and the camera handles it all, however pressing the shutter half way shows that the shutter speed is at the fps I selected for the video in the menu, so not ideal if using 24fps and a jerky video. I put it in M and doubled it to 50 and it was smoothed out, so those ‘auto’ modes aren’t much use if it just keeps the shutter speed set to whatever fps I want to record in. Argh! 
Looking into it further I will try the custom function buttons and assign the fps/shutter to each one so I can instantly jump from 30fps to 60fps quickly and have it also set the shutter to the doubled up value respectively too. Almost got it.

[stevet1]

o0spyder0o,

On my camera, at least, my video settings and my still photo settings are separate, even in Manual.

They don't have to be the same.

Steve Thomas