EOS R5 Mark II upgrade or not?

[shawnphoto]

I have the original R5, and have had it for 4 years next month. It's a fine camera that does the work. It seems to be very accurate for photography. Colors are fantastic, but not 100% accurate. The new one is supposed to be lower quality for photography, but is it more accurate with what it does have? Because I would personally take the slightly improved colors over a small increase in dynamic range. I haven't found anyone who has actually A-B tested the R5 and R5 mk II with a detailed color analysis. Honestly, if we exclude video from the equation, should I upgrade to the R5 mk II?

[ctitanic]

I understand the urge 🙂 

I have been many times an early adopter! 

[Tronhard]

I find it difficult to understand your conclusion about Canon's commitment to photography, considering you have not (as far as I can ascertain) got your hands on the R5II - if you have, then share your experience.  Speaking for myself, I have shot with every FF DSLR (since 2010)  and every FF MILC released so far, and several of the APS-C models in both DSLR and MILC series.  That does not mean I am going to buy them all, but I can say I have first-hand personal experience that satisfies my own needs to gauge their performance and express a personal opinion.

There is a simple solution to this. Instead of waiting for someone to spoon feed you the specific results you want, go and rent an R5II and do the comparisons you want for yourself, then you can proudly exhibit your results to us.  That way you have total control of the scientific process I am sure you want to follow.

[shawnphoto]

Canon is saying that this camera can do this that and the other for video. 8k 60, check, built in fan, check, less overheating, check, faster read out, check. All great for VIDEO shooters. They do say 14 bits for stills... OK. Is that more or less than the original R5? With video its clear how the R5 mk II is better, Canon is saying how it is better. But for stills it seems like radio silence is the order of the day. Again, if that is the case, great, I can move on and simply wait for the next "stills camera", whatever they decide to call it. 

[Tronhard]

We come back to the principle that is universal to the camera buyer, to what degree one values a specific set of characteristics, either existing or anticipated in a camera system. As I said in my first post, we each have to assess our purchases in relation to our perceived needs.
Product or service providers sell items with a set of characteristics (FEATURES) that they believe will be attractive to a market space: that is, a bunch of people to whom they wish to sell their wares.  As such they have no direct connection to any individual.
What is specific to the individual is the perception that they value a set of BENEITS they seek to either improve their performance or to remove a constraint to them. 
VALUE only exists when one can map BENEFITS to FEATURES within a reasonable budget.
As I understand it you are in that situation right now.  That is a decision only you can make, but to come back to your original request, if you cannot get the hard comparison data you need, then you can either hold back or make your own investigations. 
All that said, from a personal point of view, I have never felt constrained by the gear I have, I don't rely on a new piece of technology for my photography, I just use what I have and try to make the most of it.   I have already said that I am not inclined to upgrade to the R5II because for me the features don't map to benefits for me, so the value isn't there.  That is not to say that the it is not a great camera, it's just now something that will make that much difference to my own genre of photography.

Each of us has to make our own call on that.

[shawnphoto]

You don't feel constrained, that's great for you. Guess what, my R5 is showing tons of hot pixels, even at .5 second exposure at only 200 ISO. I feel constrained by having to manually delete like 50-60 hot pixels from every long exposure. There is no automatic way to remove these blemishes without ruining the rest of the image. 

I've been thinking for a while that it seems to me that the Japanese don't want to make cameras anymore. And I am perfectly fine with that because there are better options. [Removed comments that go against Canon Community Guidelines]

[Tronhard]

Rather than venting about the state of the whole Japanese camera industry, you could have spent just about 30 seconds researching how to remove hot pixels from your images.
So, I recommend you watch this and try it out.  It might reduce some of your stress and obvious frustration.
How to Fix Hot or Stuck Pixels in Canon Cameras (youtube.com)

[SamanthaW]

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