EOS R timelapse settings for sunrise

[GroomsPhotos]

i want to shoot an in camera sunrise time lapse on a tripod with a fixed aperture. or sunset to but mostly sunrise.

i am using a 2 second interval and 3600 exposures. i would like the camera to vary the shutter speed and iso. i would like to set the initial exposure at 2 seconds or 1 second and whatever iso that would be and varying the iso until it was 100 and only then changing the shutter speed faster and faster.it set to vary the iso but can not figure out how to vary the shutter speed.

Is this possible?

it seems whichever video mode i am in once i go into timelapse mode i can not change the shutter speed but it will shoot with auto iso.

i have tried using different video modes before going into the timelapse mode to no avail.

[GroomsPhotos]

I do understand how the camera settings work. this is a new camera for me but i have used a Canon 5D iii and now iv for many years and shoot mostly in Manual mode.

have you shot the EOS R in Timelapse mode?

timelapse mode will only let you set the aperature and iso to fixed or variable. that will not manage the wide dynamic range from night to day.

the video i posted was only half of the one i shot that day. the next minute the sun came out and blew out the skyl

[Waddizzle]

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@GroomsPhotos wrote:

I do understand how the camera settings work. this is a new camera for me but i have used a Canon 5D iii and now iv for many years and shoot mostly in Manual mode.

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I am sorry, but I beg to differ.  You really do not have a strong grasp on the basics.  Your complaints that I cited in my previous post illustrate that fact.  This excerpt from you original post is another example.

"i want to shoot an in camera sunrise time lapse on a tripod with a fixed aperture. or sunset to but mostly sunrise.

i am using a 2 second interval and 3600 exposures."

You want to use a shutter speed that is likely to be equal to or longer than your interval.  That is a recipe for no shots ever being captured after the initial shot.

You are stil mystified by the fact that the camera does not automatically adjust SS when your are in Manual mode.  But, your biggest problem is not your lack of knowledge, but the fact that you are not open to new ideas and trying something new.

Good Luck.

[GroomsPhotos]

i have found a menu setting for setting the maximum ISO for the timelapse mode.

i WAS shooting mostly in Av mode but was experimenting with other modes.  setting the ISO setting to 800 has made the difference in the video quality i was looking for.

Waddizzle- have you ever shot with this camera? have you used the timelapse mode? you did not comment on your erroneous statement about the battery life shooting a timelapse which makes me think you have not used this camera, that and the fact that your non rented verion of LR can not work with the camera.

this video is with the ISO set to a max of 800

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whP4-f0xeiU

[Waddizzle]

I told you to use Av mode and manually set ISO several replies ago. You seemed to ignore my advice.

I have not used the R and do not need to. Time-Lapse works the same way on all Canon bodies that have it, including mine.

BTW, I am running LR Classic. Good luck.

[GroomsPhotos]

i beg to differ. time lapse movie mode does not work the same on all Canon bodies. the OES R has auto ISO which i believe is only also available on the 6D and can change the exposure for each frame and one can also limit the ISO settings for time lapse mode.

My 5Div does not have that capabulity.

[Waddizzle]

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@GroomsPhotos wrote:

i beg to differ. time lapse movie mode does not work the same on all Canon bodies. the OES R has auto ISO which i believe is only also available on the 6D and can change the exposure for each frame and one can also limit the ISO settings for time lapse mode.

My 5Div does not have that capabulity.

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From the 5D4 Instruction Manual, p379.  

http://gdlp01.c-wss.com/gds/0/0300024970/01/eos5d-mk4-im-en.pdf 

All of the cameras that have Time-Lapse Movie Mode work the same way. Why would Canon make it work differently in different cameras?  It makes far more sense for all of them to work the same way, which they do.

I think you meant to say 6D2.  Good Luck

[GroomsPhotos]

only the 6Dii and the EOS R has the auto ISO setting in time lapse movie mode with a limit. yes, you can limit the max or min iso but not in time lapse movie mode which is what we are discussing.

see the last choice on the menu below. that is not found on other Canon cameras.

[wq9nsc]

I recall when you started this post that you were shooting a regular set of time lapse stills.  I don't have an EOS R so I don't know what it does with its mechanical shutter in time lapse mode but if it stays open continuously you need to be extremely careful capturing sunrise/sunset sequences or anything with this sort of high intensity illumination to avoid sensor damage.

If the mechanical shutter stays open in this mode like it does in other normal mirrorless camera modes (or a DSLR in liveview mode) then the sensor is constantly being hit with light focused through the lens even when it is not actually capturing an image.  With excessive illumination, at a minimum you are reducing sensor performance from additional heating which increases random "shot" noise and at worst the sensor will be permanently damaged.

Use caution with this setup!

Rodger

[GroomsPhotos]

thank you Roger. that is a good advice. i will have to stop when the sun comes up.

in my original post i should have said time lapse movie mode. my mistake.

[wq9nsc]

You are welcome!  I wasn't sure from the thread which mode you are using or if it makes a difference in terms of sensor exposure to damage.  With different technology, we have to modify our old procedures and the constantly exposed sensor plays a role.

Rodger