EOS 5D Mark III RGB Shooting Mode Color Profile and CR2 Files

[Gmelinite]

I shoot with a 5D Mark 3 set to Adobe RGB capture mode.  Do the .CR2 files contain tags for the Adobe RGB color profile or is no color profile appended.

I ask because I process the raw images with Adobe Photoshop Elements which no longer allows one to set the Adobe RGB color space as default and I have to manually change the color space for each image.

Does DPP4 have an automated way to set Adobe RGB, say for all  image files in a folder, and save the result as a .CR2 file?

[jrhoffman75]

Does this not work in Elements?

 

[p4pictures]

If you set the colour space to AdobeRGB in the camera, the .CR2 raw file will also have this indicated in the metadata. DPP certainly reads that tag, and will process files with the correct colour space, even for all images in a folder. When you process a raw file in DPP, you don't actually save the processing to a new .CR2, just the "recipe" that is added to the metadata of the original image. I don't know if Adobe software will read that from the recipe in the metadata.

[Gmelinite]

Thanks, John!  This is how I have color management set up in PSE.  However, after processing the image the default for saving the .psd file is always sRGB.  I have to manually change to AdobeRGB to save the file in that color space.

[Gmelinite]

Thanks, Brian. This is exactly what I was hoping to find out.  Please see the previous answer about whether or not PSE will save files by default in the AdobeRGB color space.

[jrhoffman75]

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@Gmelinite wrote:

Thanks, John!  This is how I have color management set up in PSE.  However, after processing the image the default for saving the .psd file is always sRGB.  I have to manually change to AdobeRGB to save the file in that color space.

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OK. So that is an export color space. Export color space could be different than working color space. Can you create an export preset?

[p4pictures]

I don't have Photoshop Elements, but if it uses the same Adobe Camera RAW as Photoshop - which I do have, then you might be able to set the defaults for Adobe Camera RAW to do what you need. 

When I open a RAW file with Photoshop I get the Adobe Camera RAW window, this window has default settings you can change. For me the three little dots - ellipsis - on the lower right side brings up the menu to set the RAW defaults.

Then when the RAW defaults window opens, I select from the Workflow section the default way to handle RAW images, and here I can set AdobeRGB and 8 or 16-bit images. You might want to look for something similar in Photoshop Elements.

[Gmelinite]

I shoot in Raw with the camera set to the Adobe RGB color profile.  When I import a .CR2 file into PSE, the image is first loaded into ACR (16.0.0.1677), and then into PSE (2024).  When I look at File>File Info... the color profile is set to sRGB. 

This tells me that either PSE ignores the color profile tag (i.e. uses the PSE sRGB default) or that the Adobe RGB color profile in the camera in lost when writing the .cr2 file.  PSE has no way to change the default color profile, although it is possible to change the color setting for the PSE workspace.  In Edit>Color Settings I use "Always Optimize for Printing".  According to Adobe, this means(?) that Adobe RGB is used in the "internal"(?) processing of the image.  Nevertheless, when I start to save a processed image as a .psd file, the color profile sRGB is listed.  As I like to same my .psd files in Adobe RGB color profile, I have to manually change the profile in an extra step.  ACR for PSE has no controls for color profile.  In fact, there are very few settings which can be made. "Raw default settings" gives only the choices "Adobe Default" or "Camera Settings".  Even using "Camera Settings" gives an sRGB color profile in PSE.

In PSE I cannot create an export profile.

I'm beginning to think that I need to transition to PS unless I want to put up with that extra manual step.