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Difference between old and new R5 for wildlife and using an adapter

Far-Out-Dude
Rising Star
Rising Star

My questions are these, how much more and why would the R5 Mark ii work better for wildlife photography than the original version?

Second question, I can manage to get the R5 Mark ii but would not be able to afford an RF lens for now,  I am looking to get the Canon 2972C002 lens adapter so I can use the EF lenses I have (Mainly the Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II USM Lens will be used for wildlife and moons shots) Are there any problems I need to know of when using this adapter? I already use one to use my EF lenses on my Canon M50 that is an EF-M mount but everything is different so I thought I should ask.

Looking forward to the difference in image quality,

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Tronhard
VIP
VIP

Well... although the R5II has been announced, as far as I understand it, the firmware is not fully confirmed yet - apparently it's v0.05 which is not a full release, and there is a very limited constituency of people who have access to the hardware.
Consequently, I would hold your enthusiasm and questions until full production versions are available.
Given that the EF100-400 L MkII lenses have worked flawlessly with the R5, I see no reason why they would not work equally with the new version.   It would not be in Canon's interests, or that of their market to let that compatibility lapse.


cheers, TREVOR

The mark of good photographer is less what they hold in their hand, it's more what they hold in their head;
"All the variety, all the charm, all the beauty of life is made up of light and shadow", Leo Tolstoy;
"Skill in photography is acquired by practice and not by purchase" Percy W. Harris

March411
Whiz
Whiz

The R5 MkII manual was recently published and can probably offer some some value as you weigh your decision on the two versions of the R5 body.

Removed link - not public information


Marc
Windy City

R3 ~ R5 ~ R6 Mk II ~ R50
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March411
Whiz
Whiz

Stephan, I'm unclear why the link was removed as it a public website that I linked to for the manual?

Clarity would be appreciated.


Marc
Windy City

R3 ~ R5 ~ R6 Mk II ~ R50
Lenses: RF Trinity and others
Adobe and Topaz Suite for post processing

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Far-Out-Dude
Rising Star
Rising Star

Thank you both for the reply, guess I will just have to wait longer. The R1 looks interesting feature-wise, just completely uncomfortable to hold with that bottom part the way it is.

Sorry the link to the manual got removed, I hope you had the chance to grab it.

I'm a bit confused why it was deleted.


Marc
Windy City

R3 ~ R5 ~ R6 Mk II ~ R50
Lenses: RF Trinity and others
Adobe and Topaz Suite for post processing

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It hasn't been made public yet. It's only available if you have the direct link. We didn't even know about it until you posted it. 

The HTML version is also live, can I post a link to that manual. Being able to access them kind of makes them public. If I could find them anyone can with a google search.


Marc
Windy City

R3 ~ R5 ~ R6 Mk II ~ R50
Lenses: RF Trinity and others
Adobe and Topaz Suite for post processing

Personal Gallery

No, you cannot link to any form of the manual until they are live on the Canon USA site.

While they may be searchable by Google, they are not listed on the Canon USA site or the cam.start.canon site. You have to have a direct link, which makes them unofficial. 

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Tronhard
VIP
VIP

To look at your question specifically, noting that at this stage no-one that I know has a full production model yet.
The R5II two has features that may benefit a wildlife photographer through its bus: It has a stacked/BSI sensor that is going to grab focus extremely quickly, provide enhanced tracking and reduce rolling shutter effect to support faster shutter speeds and frame rates under more challenging light conditions with better dynamic range.

The processor is faster and has a significant boost from the extra attached processor, the buffer is likely larger and there is the capacity to send RAW image to the CF Express card.  Assuming this is all in balance (i.e. no bottlenecks in data flow) it means that one can gain focus, shoot with more accuracy and rip off a lot of high-resolution images with a much higher success rate than before.  Wonderful, as long as you are prepared to spend hours sifting through a huge number of almost identical images in PP...  

I would be curious to see if the ability to prioritize a series of individuals, which is touted for human social events, such as weddings, would be made to work to isolate, say, a predatory animal group or individual hunting in a herd situation such as a pride of lions or even an orca pod.  That would be interesting...

The question is whether the demands of the specific types of photography one is engaged upon are such that the R5II presents enough real and specific benefits to make it a valid value proposition, or could one get more value by getting the R5 and spending the money on an RF optic, such as the RF 200-800?

Finally, considering some discussion has been made of the relative merits of the R1 in this context, I submit my updated article The Argument for Two Flagships.docx for consideration.

As to lenses: I would expect that, as long as you use the Canon EF-RF adapters , you should have no issue with using your excellent EF 100-400LII with any of the R-series of cameras.  I have already posted sample images of that lens with the EOS R6, which has the same tracking system as the R5:
Legacy Lenses with the EOS R6 MkI: EF 100-400L MkI... - Canon Community


cheers, TREVOR

The mark of good photographer is less what they hold in their hand, it's more what they hold in their head;
"All the variety, all the charm, all the beauty of life is made up of light and shadow", Leo Tolstoy;
"Skill in photography is acquired by practice and not by purchase" Percy W. Harris
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