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Comparison of R5, R5II and the R3

Tronhard
VIP
VIP

If you can deal with the presentation style, Jarod Polin has released a comparison review of these cameras to get those of us who are stuck with a decision as to where to go.  If you are looking for a reasonably detailed overview, you might find it worth a view.


cheers, TREVOR

The mark of good photographer is less what they hold in their hand, it's more what they hold in their head;
"All the variety, all the charm, all the beauty of life is made up of light and shadow", Leo Tolstoy;
"Skill in photography is acquired by practice and not by purchase" Percy W. Harris
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Any weakness in the the sealing structure of any camera is a risk.  I don't think this is about insulation so much as an air conditioning and cooling structure - they are trying to let hot air out.

I can't say for sure what is going on inside a camera I cannot tear down and I am slightly amazed that, despite diligent searching, I cannot find decent images of the venting, or a diagram of the weather sealing.  Still, it is early days...

However, logic suggests that the system works like that of a submarine, where there is an outer casing that is open to the elements (in a sub you walk on it, with a camera you hold onto it), and then a enclosed hull within that which is sealed.  This arrangement would not encompass the whole body, but be a curved shaft behind where the LCD sits. Within that would be the metal conduction surface, which takes heat from the inside and radiates it into the air shaft.  As the air heats, it loses pressure and rises, drawing more cool air from the base and venting out the side.

Given the information to hand at present, it is clear that there are intake vents on the base of the camera and obvious outlet vents on the left side by the ports, where hot air coming out should not impact someone holding the camera correctly - that is to say, with the left hand cradling the base of the camera and lens. Thus, the inner shell would be weather sealed, leaving a metal surface inside to radiate heat into the venting cavity and cause the air to travel up and through the venting path.

I have cobbled together a diagram of the passive venting from those elements.

R5II venting system.jpg

Logic suggests that this has been tested extensively before release to the market, but if you are unsure I would hold back and see how the camera behaves in the hands of the masses, or someone tears it down - maybe Lens Rentals will oblige!


cheers, TREVOR

The mark of good photographer is less what they hold in their hand, it's more what they hold in their head;
"All the variety, all the charm, all the beauty of life is made up of light and shadow", Leo Tolstoy;
"Skill in photography is acquired by practice and not by purchase" Percy W. Harris

Hello again, TREVOR

Thanks for the detailed information. I think the R5 Mark II may have the same seal as the Original R5. I wonder what it really looks like. I hope Lens Rentals and kolarivision can disassemble the camera and see the details.

Thank you.

cheers, BORA

I expect they will - in time.  The R5 is considered to have exceptional sealing - which was rather the challenge with regards heat retention!  In the R5II, by having this space that is sealed in terms of material ingress: either from moisture or dust, but is a thermally highly conductive heat sink with a stand-off out layer for operation, they will hopefully get the best of both worlds.


cheers, TREVOR

The mark of good photographer is less what they hold in their hand, it's more what they hold in their head;
"All the variety, all the charm, all the beauty of life is made up of light and shadow", Leo Tolstoy;
"Skill in photography is acquired by practice and not by purchase" Percy W. Harris

John_SD
Whiz

"If you can deal with the presentation style, Jarod Polin has released a comparison review..."

No, I can't deal with the kooky Jared Polin, and so I won't be watching. His points, while sometimes valid, are too deeply buried in his annoying presentation to sit through. Dustin Abbott is more to my taste. YMMV.

As for the R5, while I am not in the market for one, this would be a definite case to let someone else be the canary in the coal mine. Again, YMMV. 

 

Fair enough John...although, given your antipathy to the presenter and the camera, I am curious why you responded at all! 😊
FWIW, I grit too my teeth with Polin, and skip past the parts that annoy me, but some elements of his work are valid, IMHO.  Yep, I also tend to use Abbott, and Camera Labs - they are pretty thorough, but don't do that particular type of comparison.


cheers, TREVOR

The mark of good photographer is less what they hold in their hand, it's more what they hold in their head;
"All the variety, all the charm, all the beauty of life is made up of light and shadow", Leo Tolstoy;
"Skill in photography is acquired by practice and not by purchase" Percy W. Harris

Thank you, that was most interesting!! 🤔

The video and photos rather confirm my suspicion about the heat venting arrangement.  There is a false back within which there is a thermal venting shaft, with the holes at the base to accept heat from a sealed metal plate that forms the true back of the camera.  This metal plate conducts heat into the void, where the heat rises and is likely dissipated out to the true left of the camera, where there is another set of vents.

Tronhard_0-1728504864792.png

Inside that metal plate are the components of the camera and this is my best guess (from the limited imagery available) of the arrangement of heat transfer components from the various chips.
Heat venting arrangement.jpg

It's hard to be precise without knowing the function of each chip and I can't read the chip IDs at this resolution, but from the materials used, I think this is a reasonable speculation.

 


cheers, TREVOR

The mark of good photographer is less what they hold in their hand, it's more what they hold in their head;
"All the variety, all the charm, all the beauty of life is made up of light and shadow", Leo Tolstoy;
"Skill in photography is acquired by practice and not by purchase" Percy W. Harris

John_SD
Whiz

"...given your antipathy to the presenter and the camera, I am curious why you responded at all!"

LOL. This is an open forum for Canon users, Trevor, not your personal blog. We are all free to post commentary without donning the pom-poms. YMMV. 

I realize that, which is why I am at liberty to be surprised and express that - and I could say exactly the same about personal blogs for your comment, but I didn't.  I am absolutely NOT saying you have no right to comment, of course you do, I was just curious - no offense was intended.  No idea what you mean by pom-poms, must be a cultural thing?


cheers, TREVOR

The mark of good photographer is less what they hold in their hand, it's more what they hold in their head;
"All the variety, all the charm, all the beauty of life is made up of light and shadow", Leo Tolstoy;
"Skill in photography is acquired by practice and not by purchase" Percy W. Harris
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