04-10-2023 03:23 PM
I have a new Canon R 10 and took some pictures today [4/10 roughly 10am-12pm] - I opened up the card on my computer to import the images and when I looked at the list view it says IMG_6551.CR3 yesterday at 10pm and then IMG_6551.xmp Today at 1:34pm - I checked the camera itself and its Date/Time is 04/10/23 and an accurate time [in other words I'm writing this at 2pm and camera has the same time]. First, do I need to import the sidecar items? I'm using Lightroom Classic. Second, why is the RAW image showing as being taken yesterday and the sidecar .xmp showing as today - looking at the pics themselves, I took them at around 10am but the import says it was Yesterday at 10pm.
[I did go in to check the camera itself = for some odd reason it said 4/9/23 and Samoa time, which I have never been at. I have now changed the info to be correct - 4/10-220p in Chicago but I had already set the date time a week ago - ]
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04-15-2023 09:03 AM - edited 04-15-2023 09:07 AM
Greetings,
So the question has been answered. The camera is not creating the .xmp sidecars. Its something you have installed on the iPAD. You don't need them and they can be deleted. When traveling, I often copy the days worth of shots on my memory card to a PC. I might name the folders day1, 2, country, city or similar. This helps when you get home. I know I was in [location] on a given day and it can help when sorting. This also creates a back up while you're on the trip. I then have images saved to multiple cards, and the PC making the chance of my loosing memories about zero.
~Rick
Bay Area - CA
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04-15-2023 02:52 AM - edited 04-15-2023 02:53 AM
The timestamps on your XMP files are simply recording when they were created, which is whenever you loaded the pics into Lightroom, or Bridge, or whatever. They're totally irrelevant.
As a matter of fact, the date/times on your CR3 files are also totally irrelevant. That timestamp records when that physical file was created. So for example, if you copied a pic from a memory card to your computer, it could be the date/time that the computer copy was created. Or, it could be copied from the original file. It could be either way, depending on exactly what software you use to do the copy.
I have tons of old media files on my computer whose timestamps are complete garbage. It's the time the file was most recently copied, or restored from backup, or transferred form my previous computer, or whatever. Bottom line, the operating system's meta-data for your files is for the operating system's benefit, not yours.
What you should be looking at is the meta-data inside the image file itself. Because this data is inside the file, it gets copied intact along with the rest of the image; so this tells you about the content of the file -- i.e. the image -- as opposed to the physical manifestation of the file on a particular disk drive.
For example, in Bridge, you could look for "Date Created" under IPTC Core, or "Date Time Original" under Exif. Those will tell you when the picture was actually taken. Don't look under "File Properties", that's just the file timestamp again.
04-15-2023 08:50 AM
Very helpful = as I am working now with images as close to original state as possible [not yet brought into LRC] it might be quite helpful to determine creation date/time - I'm trying to put them all in chronological order and some are Canon R-10 and some are iPhone14ProMax thus the bit of confusion
04-15-2023 09:03 AM - edited 04-15-2023 09:07 AM
Greetings,
So the question has been answered. The camera is not creating the .xmp sidecars. Its something you have installed on the iPAD. You don't need them and they can be deleted. When traveling, I often copy the days worth of shots on my memory card to a PC. I might name the folders day1, 2, country, city or similar. This helps when you get home. I know I was in [location] on a given day and it can help when sorting. This also creates a back up while you're on the trip. I then have images saved to multiple cards, and the PC making the chance of my loosing memories about zero.
~Rick
Bay Area - CA
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