Canon 80d worse than Canon rebel t3i

[yteln]

Hi,

I just got a brand new Canon 80D and took some test shots on the exact same settings as my old T3i (f/stop, shutter speed, ISO but also all the other settings I could manually set.. white balance, focus mode, exposure comp, flash exposure comp, image effects, auto correct image brightness off, one shot AF, metering mode, etc.). Also swapped the lense so that it was the same on both.I set both cameras to take L + raw and am comparing jpegs. 

I'd expect 80d win this comparison but t3i produced much nicer, brighter images. Even when looking at just LCD screen I could immediately tell that t3i photos are brighter and better looking, but then downloaded it on PC and confirmed that as well.

How's that possible? Either I'm missing something or my new 80d doesn't function properly since it's obviously a much better camera and with the same settings should produce superior images.

Any ideas what I may be missing, any hidden setting which might be causing it or is there anything I can do to figure it out?

Regards

[yteln]

Sorry my bad, it's 35mm f2, was thinking in FF equivalent. 

Also I didn't claim any of these photos are "the best" they were just taken from the same place with 2 cameras without any proper lightning, just in an attempt to compare bodies. What I meant is that t3i performed better on some scenes and 80d on others. Conditions weren't ideal so that I can clearly see flaws which as you can see there are many. I understand there's a ton to improve these photos, but it's kinda out of scope for this exercise 😉

That being said, thank you very much for your help with the analysis, it was very helpful. There's definitely a lot to keep in mind, but I think overall my conclusion is IQ between these cameras didn't improve that much (although still 80d is better in many aspects). More of an eveolution that revolution. I'm thinking about just switching to mirrorless where I could see a clear improvement though. Just need to decide between sony and canon.

[wq9nsc]

Thanks for taking the time to post those RAW conversions Ernie, that tells the story. 

I have found that a properly focused image from the Kodak DC-290 compact I bought to take to Cuba in 1999 looks better than an OOF image from my  Canon 1DX 2 and EF-200 F2.0 🙂

Rodger

[ebiggs1]

"What I meant is that t3i performed better on some scenes and 80d on others."

There is no way on the face of this green earth that you can say that with any conviction.  Bad is bad, which is less bad isn't a logical conclusion. Again, I am sorry for being so blunt buy these can not in any meaningful way be compared to which is better. The correct answer is neither!

"I'm thinking about just switching to mirrorless where I could see a clear improvement though..."

Won't help or fix a thing if you still compare OOF, underexposed, shots.

[ebiggs1]

"I have found that a properly focused image from the Kodak DC-290 compact I bought to take to Cuba in 1999 looks better than an OOF image from my  Canon 1DX 2 and EF-200 F2.0"

One thing LR/PS won't correct or fix is OOF. Oh, yeah, they have attempts but still pretty bad. Bad is bad usually and sometimes you can't fix it.  I did not d/l any of the others because I saw these two as a waste of time.  My PS/LR doesn't have lens correction for the lens used but I can't see it helping anyway.

Anyway happy holidays!  

[ebiggs1]

We got 9 inches of snow. I ain't going outside unless I absolutely have to. Can you tell?  

[RobertTheFat]

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@ebiggs1 wrote:

We got 9 inches of snow. I ain't going outside unless I absolutely have to. Can you tell?  

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You should be out capturing a snow scene for your town's 2021 Community Calendar.

[ebiggs1]

Not me it was 10 degrees this morning.  Leave that to the younger guys that have not quite developed common sense yet!

[wq9nsc]

Only three inches of snow here Ernie but it is still miserable outside.  I am staying inside to align a newly acquired vintage radio where it is nice and warm.  Once calibration and alignment is complete I may even take a better photo of it 🙂  The multitude of buttons, controls, and nested menus on this sort of gear makes a Canon DSLR body seem not so complex.

Rodger

[ebiggs1]

Very cool.

You know I built a couple Heathkit radios way back in the last century. I still have a couple AR 1500a's downstairs in the storage room. Would be a great thing to do today.

[wq9nsc]

I think those particular Heathkit stereo receivers are in pretty high demand by vintage gear enthusiasts these days so keep them in good shape.  There have been a couple of failed attempts at reviving Heathkit over the years but times have changed.

Rodger