Canon 80D or R100?

[komepne1]

Hi

I'm someone who already knows how to take good photos and worked with photography before, i'm interested in buying cameras again, at the moment i dont own any lenses, so i'll start from scratch.

my options are an 80D (used, with a 24mm) and a R100 brand new for the same price.

I'm not considering the R50 due to the weird hotshoe, and i cant afford the jump to R10

I can also find some very old fullframe dslr, but i'm not sure if i should go this route because of L lenses, but i can consider getting an 5D mark III + 28-135mm, i never used this specific lens, idk how it compares to the 18-135mm

Can someone share your thoughts?

[Tronhard]

Lee:

I let the specs speak for themselves.  This is not about us as individuals, our experience and skill in taking photos: it's about finding the best primary camera for someone else.  While having a 'basic' camera as a second unit may appeal to you, how likely is that to work for someone else who is looking for a single-camera solution? So, may I suggest that you put yourself in their shoes and ask yourself what you would choose after really focusing on what they are saying their situation is?   From reading their post, considering a 5DIII does not, to me, suggest they are inclined towards something that is as basic as one can get.  The 80D is also not in that category - I still retain one today and occasionally shoot with it still.  I don't recommend a camera purely because I use it, or that it fits my own photographic philosophy.

You are drawing a long bow with your numbered statements about opinions on the R100 and, since you address that post to me, I reject that I fall into either category.  I have over 40 years of professional work as a photographer and teaching photography. I have consistently said that a camera does not, it itself, make one a better photographer.  However, that does not mean I would go out of my way to promote the cheapest, most limited and basic camera I can find to someone getting back into photography.  I have personally tested the R100 against other cameras and, from my own experience, found it seriously lacking in features and performance for a single camera solution if one can afford better - the comparison video I posted clearly shows the difference between them.

Far more significant considerations than what we shoot with are:
1. What the budget is - that defines our range of choices
2. What subjects they shoot, and under what conditions.
3. What they will produce
4. Any constraints or preferences about the interface, or physical weight

[LeeP]

Have you actually used an R100 or are you just judging it from a "the camera makes the photographer" POV?

[LeeP]

I bought an R100 as an additional body because it is so inexpensive that why not. Granted the camera is very basic, but it is not a bad camera. In fact it is rather remarkable as a versatile body. I've had it in heavy rotation for over a year and I only grow more convinced that I made a good decision. I would ABSOLUTELY go with a new R100 over a used camera. You will not regret it and when you're ready to move up to an R8 or something, you'll have an excellent, small, go-everywhere camera that takes RF lenses. Buy with confidence.

[TomRamsey]

I nearly always recommend buying the newest technology that you can afford.  And i think the especially is true here, since Canon's future is the R system.

[shadowsports]

I'm fine letting others choose.  I provided a side by side comparison and good justification for choosing the R50 over the R100.  The specs speak for themselves.  As a second body for a "competent" photographer, ok.  As a primary body, I'm not sure.  But what I might do doesn't matter here.  Please buy the camera you want, what's within your budget and what works for you.  🙂

[Ron888]

To me the biggest feature the R100 has over D80 is very good eye focus tracking.I changed to the R system just for that.If you dont need it,the 80D -even though it's older- has a bunch of other features you may prefer.
The other thing is the R lenses.They really are good! Are you sure you want to avoid those (at least for now)?
Keep in mind there are now lots of very good EF lenses selling cheap so it's still cheaper to get good image quality with used EF lenses

[Waddizzle]

Go for the R50.  The 5D3 is over a decade old, so pass on it.  The available EF mount lens options is dwindling, so that is also a knock against the 80D.   The RF lenses are next generation and perform like it. 

The 80D body is closing in on a decade in age.  But it does have a Dual Pizel AF sensor, something which the R100 lacks.  The R100 is pretty much an M6 Mark II with an RF mount.  The Dual Pixel AF sensor in the R50 is vastly superior to the R100 and even the 80D.