11-17-2014 04:05 PM
I got the camera and tested it with the 400 mm f 2.8 MKII versus a 5DIII with the same lens plus a 1.4X MKIII, both at F 4 and ISO 400 mounted in a tripod and manual focus. The target was a brick wall. Other than enlarging the image obtained with the 5DIII in the computer to match the size of that obtained with the 7DII, no further image manipulations were done in RAW CC. The results were that image quality from the 7DII were slightly better than that of the 5DIII. I have done the same test with the 7D and the image of the 5DIII was better. In other words there is a perceptible gain in image quality. I kept the 7DII because I still will be able to use the F 2.8 aperture of the lens that will not be possible since the 5DIII + the 1.4X that would be f 4. Also gain the 10 fms that double that of the 5DIII is great for wildlife photography.
The image quality/noise is not a considerable improvement over the previous one. Otherwise the camera capabilities surpasses in all aspects those of the 7D. There some small details such as now the frame counter goes to 1999 versus 999 in the old one. When setting the date there is an additional option to change the daylight saving time, a GPS, etc.
One peculiarity is that the labeling in the LCD panel is the reverse of that on the 5DIII, yet the Main Dial and the Quick Control Dial works as labeled in the 5DIII. For example, the AF-Drive is labeled as such in the 5DIII but as Drive-AF in the 7DII, yet in both cameras when you press this button to change the AF the Main Dial is used. Somebody at Canon forgot to match the labeling on the LCD panel to correspond to that of the 5DIII so that the first notation AF indicates use of the Main dial and the second notation Drive indicates the use of the Quick Selection Drive. The Rating Button I still consider a waste; no professional will rate the images based on the LCD monitor and it is not programmed to be changed to a more useful function. In the 7D I could use the AF-ON and the AF point selection button to magnify the images in the viewfinder that I found easier than the current method of having to push the Magnifying Button and rotating the Main Dial.
The autofocus is excellente and I will risk to say better than the one on the 5DIII. There a new button surrounding the multi-controller that allow for the quick selection the various AUTOFOCUS modes, a great improvement location over the previous M-Fn button (that is still present) but I still have to push the AF selection button to activate it. Why is that I just cannot have single action button for this function or a way to change the camera's program to do it?
Canon is again cutting cost by offering a Basic Camera Manual plus a full manual as a CD. This is fine for those tha carry a notebook out in the field but I no longer do to save delays in airports as well as cutting weight for carry-ons were restrictions are getting to be less than 18 pounds for some airlines. Overall, this camera has a lot to offer for the money.
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11-17-2014 05:50 PM
None but when I am doing waterfalls, landscapes, etc, I will check the manual for special settings as well as when using flash or control remotes. When I seat waiting for action I am usually looking around for what is going on...if I get distracted reading something I will miss the action...and this happens ocasionally anyway.
11-17-2014 05:55 PM
@Edward wrote:YES, [the 547-page 7D2 manual] will not bigger than the current 5DIII manual that I already carry ...
Au contraire, the 5D3 manual (which I happen to have up on the adjacent screen) is only 403 pages.
11-17-2014 06:31 PM
The short answer is error codes and functions which are useful but I don't use frequently enough to have committed to memory. I try to depend on electronic devices as little as possible so no kindle, no iphone, and nor desire to carry my laptop into the somewhat dangerous (for electronic devices) environments in which I frequently shoot. I mean really, there are at least two threads on this forum bemoaning the battery drain caused when one forgets to turn off the GPS feature on cameras.
And yes, sometimes I do read some in my blinds, although only in very short spurts.
11-17-2014 07:00 PM - edited 11-17-2014 07:01 PM
You're free to carry around any literature you choose. I won't fault you on that. I'm just surprised to find that there are people that actually carry around the manuals in anticipation of a (hopefully) infrequent error code or if they get a sudden itch to explore a new feature. But I suppose I'm not in a position to judge, I doubt I've looked at more than a dozen pages in any of the manuals I've owned.
11-17-2014 07:15 PM
A short story and a coupel or three addendums: Several years ago I was doing a one day workshop on nature photography for some middle schoolers. There were two other pros on the property at the time. After a brief introduction the first question I asked was "show of hands, who has their manuals with them?". I held up my hand as did the other two pros (who were watching before heading out on their own) and maybe three or four of the kids held up theirs. Now, the three of us who use our cameras all the time thought it was smart to carry the manuals, but the kids who probably only pick up the camera a few days a month didn't. I can't tell you how many people I know who were unaware that their cameras had dioptric adjustments, and i even ran into one person at a workshop I was attending who didn't realize that the plastic thing surrounding the front of her lens could be twisted, removed, turned around, and used as a LENS SHADE. Also had a friend shooting with me who couldn't understand why my camera (30D) had a faster burst rate than his (50D). I had to show him how to set it on "high". The majority of the folks I see out and about have no idea what proper camera technique is and yet, at least in the full manuals, there are graphics showing the proper way to hold a camera and so on. The one piece of advice I always give is "read your manual, carry it in the gadget bag for quick reference."
11-18-2014 01:15 AM - edited 11-18-2014 07:33 AM
Edward wrote:The image quality/noise is not a considerable improvement over the previous one.
It's about a stop better than the 7D at high ISO at the image level; and considerably cleaner at lower ISOs - none of this "noisy skies at 100 ISO" nonsense that we used to hear about the 7D.
11-18-2014 01:18 AM
Yep...
@RobertTheFat wrote:Would you really want to carry around the printed version of a 547-page manual?
11-18-2014 10:41 AM
@KeithR wrote:
Edward wrote:The image quality/noise is not a considerable improvement over the previous one.
It's about a stop better than the 7D at high ISO at the image level; and considerably cleaner at lower ISOs - none of this "noisy skies at 100 ISO" nonsense that we used to hear about the 7D.
THat's interesting. Several of the discussions I poked my nose in on there was a lot of talk about them being fairly similar at the mid ISOs (1600-3200) and a modest increase at 12.8k+. Admitantly I haven't really followed the pixel peeping closely, just hearing what the grumbles are. I am glad they fixed the noisy sky issue though, that was a bit embarrassing.
11-18-2014 10:42 AM
@KeithR wrote:Yep...
@RobertTheFat wrote:Would you really want to carry around the printed version of a 547-page manual?
This hasn't ceased to amaze me.
11-18-2014 11:36 AM
Guess we're just not as smart as you.
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