04-18-2017 03:11 PM
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04-18-2017 07:39 PM
I'm very familiar with the regular menues & doubt I'll have to learn any new ones for a while. I guess manufacturers realize that a lot of people won't read their manuals so they add the info into the menu system. At least it sounds like you can by pass that idea.
04-19-2017 08:45 AM
@cicopo wrote:I'm very familiar with the regular menues & doubt I'll have to learn any new ones for a while. I guess manufacturers realize that a lot of people won't read their manuals so they add the info into the menu system. At least it sounds like you can by pass that idea.
It sounds like a step in the wrong direction anyway. One of the good features of Canon's DSLRs has been the relative consistency of the controls from one model to the next.
Frankly, I have a bit of difficulty parsing the 77D's intended role. Given the existence of the Rebel line, there's no obvious need for a dumbed-down 80D. It's occurred to me to wonder if it isn't really just a test bed for in-camera stabilization, a feature that AFAIK appears nowhere else in Canon's product line.
04-19-2017 09:07 AM
04-19-2017 10:55 AM
Hmmm, Rebel T7i.
04-19-2017 12:09 PM
Of course it has "in-camera stabilization", in fact it has 5-axis stabilization ... when making videos. The 80d has no in-camera stabilization. And why do you say it's a stripped down 80d? Dude, be proud, with the Digic 7 processor it's the latest technology. Think about it, a focus system equal to the 80d but pushed by a FASTER processor. Have you tried a burst shot yet? It can take more RAW shots, or lots more .JPG without filling up the buffer. The ISO range has been increased, and it's lighter. Have you tried the Bluetooth yet with Canon Camera connect? The 80d doesn't have Bluetooth.
Are there reasons to buy the 80d over the 77d? Oh yes sir there is!
Hey, I got off base here, what about the battery grip? That's what I came here to find out. Call me old fashioned but I'm trying to support my nearest brick and mortar store so I'm waiting till they have the 77d available to buy it there. Should be this weekend. But PLEASE tell me a battery grip will be available.
04-19-2017 12:45 PM
From everything I can tell, the 77D is the next-gen T6s in the same way that the T7i is the next-gen T6i.
Conrol layouts, top LCD, etc. are all reminiscent of the T6s.
As for the image stabilization... the reference I find in the specs is that it has "elecronic" movie image stabilization. This doesn't sound like a mechanical IS feature... it sounds like software image stabilization (many video processing applications for your computer will allow you to apply stabilization in post processing).
04-19-2017 12:51 PM
I was going to say the same thing. From the website:
"Camera shake is inevitable at times, whether you’re ready to record the game-winning goal while running to keep up with the players, or when the landscape is epic but you’re riding in the car on a bumpy road. Movie Electronic IS^^^ helps minimize image blur due to shake, even when recording Full HD videos. When enabled and used with a compatible lens, 5-axis stabilization helps minimize image blur in the horizontal, vertical, and rotational planes."
Looks like a hybrid mechanical/electronic IS system that uses the lens IS in combination with shifting/rotating the sensor image electronically taking advantage or the reduced movie resolution compared to the full resolution of the sensor.
Not quite 'meh', but not "5 axis stabilization", either.
04-19-2017 01:42 PM
The "When enabled and use with a compatible lens" really sounds like they're saying the IS in the lens does it job (as it always would so long as you enable it) and they'll apply some further shake-reduction via in-camera firmware (including some digital de-rotation if you rotate the camera like a steering wheel while shooting.)
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