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60D Program Mode Shutter Selection

crojai
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My question concerns program mode with 60d/ 18-55mm stm lens - my understanding is that in program mode the camera tries to use a MINIMUM shutter speed compatible with focal length selected, ie at 18mm...1/18sec...55mm...1/55sec approximately. When I tried it, at 18mm it selected 1/30sec which is ok, but at 55mm it selected 1/15 sec!!! way too slow for handheld at 55mm.  Does anyone have any ideas on this. I put ISO on 'auto' so it would not be a factor.  Thanks as this is driving me nuts!

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@cicopo wrote:

I used auto ISO on my 1D4 for a while but abandoned it when it over rode my flash settings & selected the Max ISO for all my photos one night.


Ouch.  I assume you didn't discover it until the next day?  Ouch.

Yes it was a big & unexpected surprise. Fortunately I was just shooting a parade in Cozumel & the photos were for on line use. You would think that by setting a reasonable ISO (I used 1600) & added a flash (Canon 430EX or 580 EX) the camera would ignore using Auto ISO but WRONG, it chose 12800.

"A skill is developed through constant practice with a passion to improve, not bought."

Likewise, I rarely use auto ISO. I've come to know about this function when I read a debate about Canon vs. Nikon (a while back), and someone said that Canon auto ISO is "smarter" than that of Nikon because of this functions. 🙂

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Actually I did find some information on the programming of the program mode which gave rise to my question.  If you google 'program mode program line canon' you get a link to cpn.canon-europe.com which gives a really good explanation of this.  It's just that I can't find the charts for the the 18-55mm.  I've read before that the system is suppposed to try to select a shutter speed compatible with handheld shots as a start so I was pretty surprised it was so far out.   I would really like to find the 'program line' for the 60d/ 18-55mm. 

 

Thanks for all the input. I'm hoping someone out there can point me in the right direction.


@crojai wrote:

Actually I did find some information on the programming of the program mode which gave rise to my question.  If you google 'program mode program line canon' you get a link to cpn.canon-europe.com which gives a really good explanation of this.  It's just that I can't find the charts for the the 18-55mm.  I've read before that the system is suppposed to try to select a shutter speed compatible with handheld shots as a start so I was pretty surprised it was so far out.   I would really like to find the 'program line' for the 60d/ 18-55mm. 

 

Thanks for all the input. I'm hoping someone out there can point me in the right direction.


I think you mis-understand the "program line". It pretty much gives you an idea of how the camera calculate aperture and shutter speed for automatic exposure if you are curious. By knowing the line of your lens, it would not help you with anything. But if you want, you can calculate and graph it for your lens.


Back to your original question, you asked why at 18mm your shutter speed is 1/30s and at 55mm your shutter speed is 1/15s. The Canon "program line" in short says that Aperture will not be increased at least until reciporal of focal lenght is reached. At 18mm, your lens aperture is 3.5 and and at 55mm your lens aperture is 5.6 which is 1 1/3 stop slower. Thus, for a given scene, your 18mm f3.5 1/30 will be 55mm f5.6 1/5s.

 

This is purely my speculation but I think the camera takes into account the IS on your lens. The camera thinks that with IS enable, you can shoot handheld at 2-stop slower. So instead of having to pump up the ISO (or the ISO already reached its limit), they just low down the shutter speed. The correct exposure is F5.6 1/5s. But the camera thinks "it's too slow, the shutter speed need to reach 1/focal length taken IS into account. So ISO will be increased until 1/15s". Again this is just purely speculation.

 

 

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