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What’s going on with the RF 200-800 backorder

LaneW
Enthusiast

Estimated shipping date was Dec 14.  I ordered through Adorama, and they just say that they are backordered.  Seems to be the same story ordering direct from Canon and other sellers.  What is really going on here?








Canon R5, 80D. EF 100-400 ii, 1.4 ii TC. RF 800 F/11. RF 24-105 F/4
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Apologies for the late response, some health issues and I missed your post.

Actually, from my experience there have been similar issues with other brands, but since their market share is significantly smaller there are fewer voices expressing their discontent.  I'm not disagreeing that this is frustrating, but given these factors impact a lot of other things that are more critical to people's wellbeing - I have seen issues in other contexts with medical equipment deliveries, for example. The first line of my signature is a truth - if your home is flooded, or flattened by a tornado, or you are made redundant and lose your job, a delayed lens will suddenly be somewhat less tragic.

The fact is we have become used to a world of predictability, convenience and fast service.  Well, as factors like climate change (example Panama Canal issue) and conflict (Hormuz Strait bottleneck) start to become more prevalent, you can expect more to disruption to come.  The world has changed a lot since the COVID outbreak - people are more stressed, and that is expressed as frustration, lack of tolerance, political extremism, anger and antisocial behaviour.   We see it a bit on this forum from people who come to rant rather than seek solutions or explanations.

While I do a lot of photography, I am not dependent on any one piece of equipment, and I am not going to get myself in a twist over something I cannot control. I believe photography is more about technique than tech, and since I functioned perfectly well before I knew this or that gear existed, I can continue to do so until it turns up or I consider it economically viable.

I never personally pre-order gear, and usually wait until it has had some field use before purchasing, that way I am not tapping my fingers waiting in anticipation, and it's a lot less stressful.  However, communication is a different issue and I agree that silence in these situations is not golden.  I have worked with multiple large companies and can attest that not sharing bad news is a fairly common human characteristic in business and politics, and there are challenges in doing so when there are major variations.  What if I issue a statement that such-and-such is critically delayed, but some folks get that item right away and then accuse the vendor of crying wolf?  I have seen that happen with weather predictions: predicted bad weather never comes and the agency gets rubbished, so it they be more reticent to issue a warning for the next weather event, and if they don't and it causes strife, they are pilloried again.  Furthermore, as I have also said, it seems to be a cultural characteristic of Japanese society in particular to hold back from the perceived shame of admitting an issue.

All I can say is that if you feel that Canon is acting poorly and think that another vendor will perform better in that context, then I would sincerely suggest moving to them - it's your right as a consumer to vote with your feet.  I shoot Canon, Fuji, Nikon, Olympus and Sony and they are ALL great companies or they would not exist.  Just be aware switching platforms usually costs, so research their performance carefully.


cheers, TREVOR

The mark of good photographer is less what they hold in their hand, it's more what they hold in their head;
"All the variety, all the charm, all the beauty of life is made up of light and shadow", Leo Tolstoy;
"Skill in photography is acquired by practice and not by purchase" Percy W. Harris

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A_Random_Dude
Enthusiast

For sure! I can't speak for anyone but myself, but if Canon had used just a bit of good business sense and kept their customers aware of the process, it would have been a far better thing. (For the record, the only contact I've had from B&H is their normal daily message about deals. As I said above, perhaps I haven't gotten the alert because I hadn't preordered the lens. Their website is giving me the normal "Temporarily out of stock" message.)

 

R5, R6 Mk II, R5 Mk II (and a 300D that I can't bear to part with); RF 15–35mm f/2.8 L IS USM, RF 24–105 f/4 L IS USM, RF 100-500 f/4.5–7.1 L IS USM, RF 200–800 f/6.3–9 USM (with sights on the RF 70-200 as well…)

A_Random_Dude
Enthusiast

Well, in a VERY unexpected turn of events, I've discovered that B&H has the 200-800 in stock! I've added it to my cart, and I can check out at 1915 EST, so in a little over two hours. Full disclosure, I would actually prefer to get it from Roberts Camera, but it's not in stock there. So, if all goes well, I'll finally have my grubby little mitts on the 200-800 this coming Tuesday. 🤞🤞🤞 (My only mirrorless currently is the R6 Mk II, which I love, and which is a great pairing with the 100-500. Something tells me I may need to look into getting myself an R5 for Christmas...)

 

R5, R6 Mk II, R5 Mk II (and a 300D that I can't bear to part with); RF 15–35mm f/2.8 L IS USM, RF 24–105 f/4 L IS USM, RF 100-500 f/4.5–7.1 L IS USM, RF 200–800 f/6.3–9 USM (with sights on the RF 70-200 as well…)

March411
Mentor
Mentor

You'll love it on the R6 Mk II but a Christmas R5 would be a bonus.


Marc
Windy City

R3 ~ R5 ~ R6 Mk II ~ R50
Lenses: RF Trinity and others
Adobe and Topaz Suite for post processing

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Well, I am seeing an R5 Mk II with the 24-105 RF as a package, and I am giving SERIOUS thought to adding that. I have the 24-105 EF lens, which I've used to good effect on my 7D Mk II and 1DX Mk III, and I think it's one of the most versatile, useful lenses I've ever seen. To have it on one of the R-series cameras is pretty much a no-brainer. Really, as much as I love my 7D, maybe it's time to sell that and my Sigma 100-600 Sport...

 

R5, R6 Mk II, R5 Mk II (and a 300D that I can't bear to part with); RF 15–35mm f/2.8 L IS USM, RF 24–105 f/4 L IS USM, RF 100-500 f/4.5–7.1 L IS USM, RF 200–800 f/6.3–9 USM (with sights on the RF 70-200 as well…)

March411
Mentor
Mentor

If you have the EF 24-105 f4 that is a pretty solid lens. If you can find the R5 Mk II in stock, well all I can say is....Merry Christmas!


Marc
Windy City

R3 ~ R5 ~ R6 Mk II ~ R50
Lenses: RF Trinity and others
Adobe and Topaz Suite for post processing

Personal Gallery

I have been shooting with the 24-105 f4l for five years now on my RP.   I just upgraded to the R5ii when it came available.   I rented the 100-500 the summer before but ended up buying the 200-800 and have been happy with that combo.    I’ve got a number of primes but the 24-105 pretty much lives on the camera unless I need the “big gun.”

A_Random_Dude
Enthusiast

Thanks, and Merry Christmas to you as well! 😃

 

R5, R6 Mk II, R5 Mk II (and a 300D that I can't bear to part with); RF 15–35mm f/2.8 L IS USM, RF 24–105 f/4 L IS USM, RF 100-500 f/4.5–7.1 L IS USM, RF 200–800 f/6.3–9 USM (with sights on the RF 70-200 as well…)

shadowsports
Legend
Legend

Just checked B&H now.  (Sunday). Its still in stock and available to order.  🙂

~Rick
Bay Area - CA


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A_Random_Dude
Enthusiast

It's interesting that a couple of the other retailers I work with are still not showing the lens as available. I wonder if B&H got special consideration simply because of the volume they deal with? Regardless, I know I'm going to be happy to get the lens (likely on Tuesday), after quite a long wait. I still wish Canon had been transparent about availability and delivery times, but that's out of my control. As I've said in previous posts, I've invested a lot of time and money in Canon over the years, and I do think they make very good products, so I've not been tempted to switch to another brand. However, I can certainly understand why people would want to do that.

 

R5, R6 Mk II, R5 Mk II (and a 300D that I can't bear to part with); RF 15–35mm f/2.8 L IS USM, RF 24–105 f/4 L IS USM, RF 100-500 f/4.5–7.1 L IS USM, RF 200–800 f/6.3–9 USM (with sights on the RF 70-200 as well…)

Canon UK have had the RF 200-800 in stock for the last month or so. The UK retailers seem to have stock also. Canon UK are offering £100 cash back as I type so that would suggest they have excess stock to shift. 
I’ve had mine for around 6th months. Great fun to use. A bit of a learning curve to get the best out of it as it’s so unlike anything I’ve had for a camera previously. More like a zoom short tube refractor telescope... No regrets.

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