12-23-2023 12:21 PM
Estimated shipping date was Dec 14. I ordered through Adorama, and they just say that they are backordered. Seems to be the same story ordering direct from Canon and other sellers. What is really going on here?
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05-06-2024 02:51 PM - edited 05-06-2024 02:55 PM
Apologies for the late response, some health issues and I missed your post.
Actually, from my experience there have been similar issues with other brands, but since their market share is significantly smaller there are fewer voices expressing their discontent. I'm not disagreeing that this is frustrating, but given these factors impact a lot of other things that are more critical to people's wellbeing - I have seen issues in other contexts with medical equipment deliveries, for example. The first line of my signature is a truth - if your home is flooded, or flattened by a tornado, or you are made redundant and lose your job, a delayed lens will suddenly be somewhat less tragic.
The fact is we have become used to a world of predictability, convenience and fast service. Well, as factors like climate change (example Panama Canal issue) and conflict (Hormuz Strait bottleneck) start to become more prevalent, you can expect more to disruption to come. The world has changed a lot since the COVID outbreak - people are more stressed, and that is expressed as frustration, lack of tolerance, political extremism, anger and antisocial behaviour. We see it a bit on this forum from people who come to rant rather than seek solutions or explanations.
While I do a lot of photography, I am not dependent on any one piece of equipment, and I am not going to get myself in a twist over something I cannot control. I believe photography is more about technique than tech, and since I functioned perfectly well before I knew this or that gear existed, I can continue to do so until it turns up or I consider it economically viable.
I never personally pre-order gear, and usually wait until it has had some field use before purchasing, that way I am not tapping my fingers waiting in anticipation, and it's a lot less stressful. However, communication is a different issue and I agree that silence in these situations is not golden. I have worked with multiple large companies and can attest that not sharing bad news is a fairly common human characteristic in business and politics, and there are challenges in doing so when there are major variations. What if I issue a statement that such-and-such is critically delayed, but some folks get that item right away and then accuse the vendor of crying wolf? I have seen that happen with weather predictions: predicted bad weather never comes and the agency gets rubbished, so it they be more reticent to issue a warning for the next weather event, and if they don't and it causes strife, they are pilloried again. Furthermore, as I have also said, it seems to be a cultural characteristic of Japanese society in particular to hold back from the perceived shame of admitting an issue.
All I can say is that if you feel that Canon is acting poorly and think that another vendor will perform better in that context, then I would sincerely suggest moving to them - it's your right as a consumer to vote with your feet. I shoot Canon, Fuji, Nikon, Olympus and Sony and they are ALL great companies or they would not exist. Just be aware switching platforms usually costs, so research their performance carefully.
11-03-2024 03:29 PM
I'm glad you like it! Your description reminds me of my 100-500 RF. As soon as it showed up I stuck it on my R6.2 and went off to the local park and was able to get some good shots of birds in flight. (Full disclosure; the keepers were a much smaller percentage of the total shots than I would like to admit. I clearly need to work hard to improve my long lens technique.) Where I live in Central Connecticut, we still have a lot of nice fall colors, and according to B&H, I should have the 200-800 on Tuesday. Looking forward to working with the lens, even if there is going to be a learning curve!
11-03-2024 01:43 PM
Agreed, the communication can improve but I believe Canon is concerned to set expectation as they will be held accountable.The R5 Mk II going right into back order probably didn't help peoples ongoing frustration.
I've been a Canon customer for over 40 years and I will probably never change. One of Canon's greatest assets is the customer support teams. Moving from DSLR to MILC I had some challenges with some Sigma EF lenses I wanted to hold onto and they spent a lot of time on the phone getting them all resolved. I also had a registration challenge with my R5 and they had it resolved and registered it for me.
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11-03-2024 02:42 PM
Well put. I'm not a businessman, and I don't pretend to know anything about how any company works, let alone a multinational like Canon. However, I do take the approach that honesty/transparency is a good policy in most cases. On the other hand, in these days when it looks like outrage is American's main commodity, and when a percentage of the people are ready to be angry no matter what, it does seem that even if Canon had been up front about the 200-800 and the R5II (and anything else), they would have taken heat for that too. Kind of a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.
11-04-2024 11:01 AM
Woo-hoo! The lens has arrived! After months and months of waiting (and never actually getting an in-stock notification), it was quick at the finish; less than 48 hours from submitting the order to having it in my possession. Nothing would make me happier than to open it up and start my learning curve but I'm working from home and can't really drop what I'm doing just now. But there's a lot to look forward to.
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