05-02-2023 12:22 PM
I know this has been discussed before, but I have a fairly specific case and I'm still not sure how the discussions apply. My wife has agreed to photograph a relative's wedding. She has done some semi-pro photography before but her Sony alpha DSLR has been acting up and she is buying an m50 as a backup. She needs to buy lenses quickly.
If she buys an EF 50mm and an ef-s 50mm and takes a picture from the m50 (aps-c) with each lens, in the same place, will the two pictures produced by the camera subtend the same visual angle or will one of them portray a larger apparent visual angle?
We don't have time to experiment with lots of things and do three or four rounds of shipping to get the fovs she needs covered. It would also be nice not to waste money on redundant lenses if EF and EF-S focal ranges behave differently when used on her camera.
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05-04-2023 11:33 AM
Key word there "adapter". I don't like, I don't use adapters. You may like them and that's fine but it's not for me and I will never recommend or advise others to do it. An adapter, any adapter, is designed to make something that wasn't designed to work in one application to work in a different application. Thanx but no thanx.
That's why I qualified it stating, "My personal recommendation ..."
05-04-2023 12:21 PM
Photographing a relative's wedding (and for free) is an endeavor fraught with peril if one is not an experienced pro.
If the wedding party is expecting pro results they should hire a pro. You are risking family strife if your product is "less" than what is expected and desired.
05-04-2023 01:10 PM
I SO agree with that. I have reluctantly done a couple of wedding, gratis, for friends or friends of friends and they are a minefield of challenges - sometimes the least of which are to do with photography.
05-04-2023 05:51 PM
I'm skirting the line of propriety, but let's just leave it at "the family is grateful to have someone with a real camera who is willing to try to capture the event".
Shooting a wedding for free does carry risks, but so does leaving close relatives out to dry with no other real options. If we can help we're going to.
05-04-2023 06:00 PM - edited 05-04-2023 06:00 PM
I understand your challenges there and laud your commitment. As long as they know it's on a 'best effort' basis then that will hopefully help.
Have you shot weddings before? Some hints that I have learned along the way:
Get the bridal party to tell folks you are shooting the wedding and ask them to let you get your shots. I cannot say how many images I have seen lost as the photographer tries to get the critical shots of the bride coming down the isle, and the pair leaving down the isle as people step out to take photos with their cell phones, thus totally blocking the view. If it is done diplomatically, most people are understanding.
Avoid direct glaring sunlight. I did a friend of a friend's wedding and it took place in mid-summer, midday under a cloudless sky. A newbie photographer put the party in the sun, resulting in squinting and sun glasses being worn. I found a shaded area under some lovely trees and they visibly relaxed. I had no issues with glare or too wide a dynamic range. Those were the images they kept.
05-04-2023 06:21 PM
My wife did one other wedding, a similar situation for friends that worked out well.
Other than that, she's done lots of outdoor family, couple, baby, newborn cow, etc. shoots and I've seen plenty of dates changed last minute to either use cloudy days or avoid sunny ones. I've also played pack mule for plenty of equipment while she moves everyone around chasing shade.
She's very aware weddings are more limiting, but the family is artsy enough to understand, and will almost certainly try to accommodate placement when possible.
The real risk I see is the time between the wedding and when the photos are done. She exclusively shoots RAW so she'll come back with who knows how many images that need to be filtered down to the <unknown number> best, then post processed. She will instinctively want to spend an hour or more each tweaking each to perfection in Photoshop. If I don't help her accept that getting those last 3 pixels perfect on every shot isn't worth, it she'll be at it for a month or more.
05-04-2023 06:27 PM
Most people don't pixel peep, only photographers. They will likely be happy to get reasonable photos, but sooner than later so they can share the moments with their friends and family.
05-04-2023 06:29 PM - edited 05-05-2023 11:07 AM
That process doesn't seem to be a good one at all. I strongly recommend shooting in RAW+JPEG so that a preview album can be created as quickly as possible for the couple to review them and pick out their favorites. Then spend the time on editing those.
Ultimately, there should be some contract that makes it clear when the couple will receive their photos, albums, etc. And both sides must also agree to those timelines.
05-05-2023 09:01 AM
That's your prerogative, but I can't deny my own experience. For instance, I have the EF 50mm f/1.8 on a Viltrox adapter. I can't imagine that lens working any differently on a DSLR than it does on my M50, except that on the M50 I get dual pixel AF whether I'm using the viewfinder or the live view screen.
05-05-2023 10:37 AM
" I've seen plenty of dates changed last minute to either use cloudy days ..."
A cloudy day is your friend if the wedding is outdoors. Other than that you have my recommendation. A Rebel T8i with standard kit, 17-55mm lens, and add an ef-s 55-250mm lens.
I have not used jpeg, period, a all for the last 15-20 years or so, 100% Raw. The thought of saving two copies is a valid one but the fact that the cameras you are gong to use don't offer two separate sources to save photos, adding a jpeg to an already saved Raw image is useless and wastes SD capacity. At the very least I would advise her to have a separate SD card for each part of the wedding. Getting ready, first view, ceremony, wedding party and reception, etc., and even more is even better.
"... tell folks you are shooting the wedding and ask them to let you get your shots."
The only time this may be necessary is during the ceremony. The photographer should be not seen as much as possible. The photographer is not part of the proceedings and should not be. The photographer is the traffic cop much of the time so be prepared for that. I have directed more weddings than a wedding planner! You would be surprised how little people know about weddings when the actual wedding day arrives.
Last word, Raw and Photoshop is your friend, She will do just fine. 😉
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