05-21-2017 09:35 AM
Okay, so it could be me - I'm not a total noob, but who knows. Been shooting with my Canon Rebel T3i for several years. Mostly used my 55-250 kit lens and at times I got some tack sharp photos from that lens
Regarding my new 100-400 vii lens, I have yet to get a crisp shot - the shots are just okay to me. Granted I am hand holding the camera and lens when trying to take photos, and it is a bit heavy (mostly of birds and wildlife) but I do have the IS on. I usually shoot on M but lately I've been using TV mode - my photos are okay but they just are not sharp enough. I have it on AF - and sometimes it takes a few seconds to focus.
Even with my tripod, again, the shots are okay - some are passable, but I know what sharp is as I've taken a few with my 55-250 and so far I'm not cutting it.
I usually have the lens to full zoom at 400 and I try to keep the shutter speed at least 400 as I've read the focal length should be reciprocal to the shutter speed. My histogram looks great quite often...
Question/Issues: Perhaps I am too far away from my subject? Birds are so skittish so I usually stand maybe 20 feet away.
I thought with the larger zoom that meant I wouldn't have to be as close to my subject .
So am I too far away?
If someone has a few moments, perhaps I can get some advice or point me to a great website....Thanks very much.
05-29-2017 09:26 AM
You may think it logical that a lens/camera can know if it is mounted on a tripod and turn the IS off, it doesn't. If you notice I said, "... shuts off IS when mounted on a tripod." They do not do that. All, well all of the newer IS lens 'sense' movement. When none is indicated the IS remains locked as I earlier stated. Older Canon IS lenses did not lock the IS. However if wind or an earthquake moves the tripod the IS will spring into action. Tripod or not! It couldn't if it were shut off. Another reason this can't happen is the use of quick plates to mount lenses. If the quick plate were to be left on the lens, as I do a lot, most, of the time, the IS would never work.
A lens I am not certain of is the Canon EF 200-400mm f/4L IS USM Lens with Internal 1.4x Extender. Never touched one. Never even seen a real one. Actually I have no desire to mess with one at 10 grand.
05-29-2017 09:31 AM
Summerlee,
"I need to shoot more..." ![]()
Bingo! You just discovered the solution. Practice, practice and more practice. I teach music at the local school in the Summer Music Program. I tell all the youngsters, 5th graders, that very "secret" to becoming good at whatever you do. Whether it be music, baseball, art, etc. or photography.
Go outside and shoot.
05-29-2017 09:40 AM
"In chapter of the article, they discuss IS and a tripod."
All I can say is test it for yourself. Don't be like Tommy Boy and just read stuff to draw your conclusions. Try it, you may be surprised. Again, I am not saying that every lens is this way just that I have not seen it on the ones I have tested.
This is a big reason I buy so many lenses. I am just curious on how they really work. I see it as a fun time 'hobby' if you will.
I could have a worse hobby like gofl, I guess. ![]()
05-29-2017 10:18 AM
@ebiggs1 wrote:"In chapter of the article, they discuss IS and a tripod."
All I can say is test it for yourself. Don't be like Tommy Boy and just read stuff to draw your conclusions. Try it, you may be surprised. Again, I am not saying that every lens is this way just that I have not seen it on the ones I have tested.
This is a big reason I buy so many lenses. I am just curious on how they really work. I see it as a fun time 'hobby' if you will.
I could have a worse hobby like gofl, I guess.
I turn it off, anyway, whenever I'm mounted on a tripod. The feature is not something I rely on, but it is something to be aware of, that being that IS can go to sleep
You can occasionally hear IS motors at work in some lenses, which is what led me to research it and finding that article. I have found that IS can be significant drain on your camera battery, because it seems like it is always active for as long as the camera is "awake." That article confirmed by suspicions.
Your reaction of the article's content is the identical reaction when I have posted it in the past. You seem to have a bit of experience on the subject of IS on a tripod. Do you have any recommendations on a testing procedure? I wouldn't know where to begin. I always turn it off, because it doesn't seem to help with shutter vibrations, anyway. Maybe IS doesn't help with shutter vibrations because it has gone to sleep!
Just as most Standard IS algorithms are not suited for panning, most of the IS algorithms may not be suited for the type of harmonic vibrations that a tripod may create. I suppose you could almost say that certain lenses have an extra hidden mode, tripod mode.
Have a safe and happy Memorial Day, Ernie, and the rest of the gang, too.
05-29-2017 10:18 AM
05-29-2017 10:23 AM
05-29-2017 10:32 AM
"Do you have any recommendations on a testing procedure?"
No, just try various things. All the Moon shots I posted had ther IS left on. Not that, that is proof but another indication I rarely turn it off.
" I wouldn't know where to begin."
I don't believe that for a moment. You are too knowledgeable to say that.
"Have a safe and happy Memorial Day, Ernie, and to all of yours too, and the rest of the gang, too."
And the whole Canon Community.
I am playing a Memorial Day Service today at 11:00 today. I am sure it will be moving. It always is.
05-29-2017 10:56 AM
@Summerlee340 wrote:
Wadizzle, for a second, I thought the above post was to me, then realized it's to ebiggs. Anyhow, just wanted to chime in for a sec and wanted to add that the first time I heard a "noise" coming from my lens, I had no clue it was the IS until I looked it up. It's like a clicking sound. Rainy day here on Long Island....
According to the list at the link, the EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS II USM has what I'm going to call IS Tripod Mode. I think it is something that is good to know about. There is no way to tell when the IS is enabled or has automatically disabled itself, except for the lack of the occasional quiet "scratch" noise from the lens. I have never heard the IS scratching noise noise from my 100-400, nor from my EF 70-200 f/2.8L IS II USM, either, under any circumstances.
Seeing how IS tends to be active for as long as the camera is "awake", I think the fact that I seem to get WAY more battery life with the 100-400 than with other lenses not one the list coul be evidence that the lens does disable IS when on a tripod, and also when it detects excessive movement such as when you're walking around, gently swinging the camera.
I am in the NYC area, too, and it's been pouring off and on. I wanted to attend an event with Osprey an Blackhawk helicopters, but not if it is raining buckets.
05-29-2017 12:48 PM
I know I said I would take more photos with the 100-400 on my tripod, but I had my 55-250 on, and saw tons of birds out of my window, so just went with that lens-hand held, for now. Here are two photos. The one of the woodpecker - I really tried to focus on the eye. The other birds, it was a bit harder to do that. So when I focus on the eye, it appears that the surrounding area is a little sharper. I need more practice, but wanted to show you two more photos since. Again, I know it's on my other lens and not pertinent to my original question. On another note, I downloaded DPP free from Canon. I will need a tutorial on how to use that. Wow - don't know where to begin. I wish I was retired so I could play more with this.
05-29-2017 03:46 PM
Those are nice shots.
Whether the lens turns itself off on a tripod is not the issue. Whatever works for you is the issue. If you feel that switching the IS off helps, by all means do it. I don't see that so I don't mess with it and leave it on most all the time.
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