12-09-2024 04:46 AM - edited 12-25-2024 01:50 AM
I’m about to buy myself my first camera, and I’m going with the r8, however, other than the 50mm 1.8 im not sure what to start off with, is there a cheap lens I should go with? I heard about the 24-240 being decent but wanted to hear from people and see what y’all think I just need something affordable so I can save up for nicer stuff going forward.. https://xender.vip/
12-09-2024 09:48 AM
The RF24-240mm is one of the best lenses I own at its price point. The only drawback is in low light situations, you will have to increase the ISO which will create a bit of noise. The lens is sharp, fast, compact and a great all day carry.
These images both came off of the 24-240mm, the first was a morning shot with overcast skies, still a decent image. The second was the same day mid afternoon. Its important to note that both these images had to be reduced to publish in this thread.
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12-09-2024 10:29 AM
"... other than the 50mm 1.8 im not sure what to start off with, ..."
I would not "start off with" a 50mm prime. No way it is too limiting and a difficult FL to live with. It is a special needs lens and not a good GP lens. The 24-240mm would be a whole lot better but I wouldn't buy it either. Best go is to buy your new EOS R8 with the RF24-50mm F4.5-6.3 IS STM kit lens. That's the cheapest way you can go for the biggest bang for the buck.
12-10-2024 03:57 PM
I agree with ebiggs1 that the 50mm f/1.8 is not a lens you want to start out with. It is a great lens (I love mine), but you are very limited with it, and it is a focal length that many photographers only need once in a while. I like to challenge myself with this lens occasionally on photowalks for street photography, but it can be a challenge. It's often not wide enough, or long enough.
As mentioned the RF 24-50mm f/4.5-6.3 is a good budget suggestion. However if you do want a little more reach, the RF 24-105mm f/4-7.1 is also a good suggestion for $100 more than the 24-50mm. I have that one as well, and feel it is a very underrated kit lens. I find myself reaching for this one fairly often when I want a general purpose walk around lens.
12-10-2024 05:40 PM
My vote is for the 24-105 f4-7.1 or the RF 24-240 if these are within budget.
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12-10-2024 06:11 PM
Step 1: Don't buy the 50mm lens. The 50 isn't "nifty". It's too "short: when you need the reach of a telephoto and too "long" when you need a wider angle.
The 24-240 is an infinitely better option by far.
12-10-2024 08:10 PM - edited 12-10-2024 08:11 PM
Welcome. I suggest the RF 28-70mm f/2/8 IS STM lens.
I don’t feel there’s anything wrong with that 50mm lens on a full frame camera. It can teach more about photography than almost any narrow aperture zoom. It’s cheaper than a photography class. It can do the job in many low light situations.
But there’s much to be said in favor of a “standard” zoom lens, 24-70mm. Standard refers to the range of focal lengths that the lens covers. These are some of the most commonly used focal lengths used for general photography. The best zoom lenses have a “zoom ratio”, longest to shortest focal lengths, of 4:1 or smaller.
The 24-240mm falls into a category of lenses known as “super zooms.” These lenses typically cover a zoom range from wide angle, about 24mm, to super telephoto, about 300mm or even more. There is a trade off in image quality for such a wide zoom ration as the 10:1 for the 24-240mm. It is not as bad as many others, which have zoom ratio in the 20:1 neighborhood. Most casual photographers are satisfied by the performance of the 24-240mm.
If you foresee the 24-240mm as being your only lens for the foreseeable future, then I would recommend it. It is a great all-in-one lens, but it is not a can do-it-all lens. It is an excellent choice for traveling light when on vacation.
But I would still lean toward the 24-70mm and the 100-400mm as a later purchase down the road. Always factor in what your future lens purchases might be prior to investing one.
12-10-2024 09:13 PM - edited 12-10-2024 09:15 PM
The 24-70mm or the 28-70mm are also a real good lenses and it still gives the OP the wider side for landscape and street photography if that's of interest. Also a big fan of the 100-400mm, light, compact, fast focus and good IQ. I would put the IQ in the same category as the 24-240mm. I would agree that It is a great all-in-one lens, but it is not a can do-it-all lens. It struggles in low light including focus. I have had a couple of occasions early and late in the day when it racks to grab focus. It eventually gets the job done with a little motivation but it does struggle.
If the range of the 24-70mm or the 28-20mm works those are also a darn fine lens. To many choices, to little cash.
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12-11-2024 10:44 AM
" It can teach more about photography than almost any narrow aperture zoom. "
Total nonsense. You can learn photography just as well with a zoom. There is nothing magical about a 50mm f1.8 prime lens teaching anyone any more about photography than a typical zoom and the 50mil has a great deal of downsides.
12-11-2024 10:57 AM
10,000% agree.
As a working photographer for 45 years and as a photography instructor, developing the eye for composition comes first. The 50mm lens stifles that learning curve hardcore.
People who wax poetic about the "nifty 50" also was poetic about the exposure triangle, an anachronism from film days.
The excellence of in-camera metering and the editing power of Lightroom and Photoshop has pretty rendered the esoterica of the exposure triangle useless.
Sure, once you have an eye and are competent with your photo editing, you could learn exposure triangle for spits and giggles.
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