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Why Canon still keeps using decade old FSI-CMOS sensor? What happened to innovation spirit?

Zalkonian
Enthusiast

So I was looking for mirrorless camera that would best suit my needs and I like Canon R6 specs. But sadly I learned that Canon reason it keeps still using old sensor technology in this other full frame mirrorless camera‘s that got released recently, after 2020 and still can't find BSI-CMOS full frame camera. Tell me this is somekind of mistake mentioned in websites such dpreview.com because if this true this sounds to me like malicious planned obsolescense? Stacked CMOS also may be still using FSI-CMOS? Also was hoping that news would support pixel shift but not many do.

It is known fact that backlit CMOS sensors are more sensitive and are better f-stop in noise reduction due to lack of electrodes blocking light, also BSI design allows more complex circuitry that’s why many camera’s started using them. It isn’t somekind of groundbreaking super expensive technology and is fact used in mirrorless camera’s and phones since 2015, some of the first such sensor camera’s even date back to 2012.

By now camera industry should have been looking beyond traditional silicon sensors or at least finding ways to increase for example photosite area size since they are inefficient at light gathering, low light sensitivity is lacking, there is need to rely on big full frame sensors to get good image quality what in turn leads reliance to bulky, heavy and expensive lens. I’m happy that Canon at least released SPAD sensor camera but this technology must be mass produced to bring down cost for affordability to regular folks.

I’m waiting for company that has enough courage and respect for users to release mirrorless camera using latest available technology such quantum dot or graphene enhanced CMOS sensors as well other unconventional technologies such as metalens to make big leap forward. Then companies could just charge more instead of peddling little changing semioutdated trash that has questionable application range and is just contributing to polluting the planet.

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I think it would be better to contact them by email. Can you provide it? Or why not just let them join discussion here. I'm more people would like to learn more detailed and clarified camera specs.

So what email it is?

The 3 of them have Back Illuminated Stacked Sensors.



Frank
Gear: Canon EOS R6 Mark I, Canon 5D Mark III, EF100-400 L II, EF70-200 f2.8 II, RF50 and few other lenses.
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Which models you mean? Canon R6, mark II and R8 too?

R1, R3, and R5 Mk 2.



Frank
Gear: Canon EOS R6 Mark I, Canon 5D Mark III, EF100-400 L II, EF70-200 f2.8 II, RF50 and few other lenses.
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shadowsports
Legend
Legend

Greetings,

Right now only the R1, R3 and R5 Mark II have back illuminated sensors.  If you would like to leave product feedback, feature requests or suggestions, you may do so on the Canon USA homepage. Click the [+]Feedback icon in the upper right hand corner and select product.  There you may leave your feedback.  

~Rick
Bay Area - CA


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I still see that these models don't list sensor as BSI-CMOS, just regular stacked CMOS. Please update your spec listing information. https://cameradecision.com/compare/Canon-EOS-R1-vs-Canon-EOS-R5-Mark-II

Is a lot of light lost due to older sensor design in Canon R6, mark II and R8 than in models using BSI tchnology? Which models support pixel binning and how good it is in boosting sensitivity?

kvbarkley
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Actually, Canon has never been at the forefront of sensor technology. They used the same 18MP sensor for *years*. They focus (hah!) more on lenses, user experience and color science.

So if you are looking for cutting edge technology, look elsewhere.

18Mp is enough, I wish they used similar lower resolutions. What is really needed is novel sensor technology to increase sensitivity and reduce sensor size. It's a **bleep** shame Canon creating SPAD sensor technology and yet not using in new camera's even BSI CMOS technology.

Tronhard
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I am curious: what subjects do you shoot that require the technology you seek? 


cheers, TREVOR

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