Prefix file name underscore versus 8

[Zbadger]

I use Adobe color space for my 5D Mark 4 which uses a file name with an initial underscore. However I am finding that on some of my folders the majority of my files will be correctly labeled with an underscore but then a lesser number of them will randomly instead have an 8 starting off the name of the file. I contacted Canon technical support and they have never heard of this issue.

[TTMartin]

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@Zbadger wrote:

I ws using either P, M or HDR with +-1 stop.  Not the custom functions.   So there is the quandry.  How can that be explained?

Yes - most of my photos are seen electronically but I want Adobe RGB for those that I print for the wall.

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Are the sRGB photos when you have your camera in Portrait orientation rather than Landscape orientation? 

I know Canon cameras will store different AF configurations based on how you hold the camera. In fact 3 different configurations one for Landscape orientation, and two others depending on which end of the camera you turn up when shooting in Portrait orientation.

The other thing is in HDR is it possible the sRGB colorspace files are the component files of the HDR? i.e. the underexposed one, the properly exposed one, and the over exposed one

[RobertTheFat]

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@Zbadger wrote:

I ws using either P, M or HDR with +-1 stop.  Not the custom functions.   So there is the quandry.  How can that be explained?

Yes - most of my photos are seen electronically but I want Adobe RGB for those that I print for the wall.

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If you're that finicky about color accuracy, you should be shooting in RAW. Then you can select the appropriate color gamut (sRGB, Adobe RGB, ...) when you convert to JPEG.

[Zbadger]

The SRGB images are both landscape and portrait.

THeir appear to possibly be some HDR images but if so, just say 2 of 3 or 1 of 3 and there seem to be random other ones that start with the "8" prefix (sRGB)

[Zbadger]

I am shooting both in RAW and jpg.  Back story:  these images are from a trip with 20 people,  I took most of the scenic and museum images - about 3000 total.  I offered like a similar trip last year to create a day by day electronic album for the entire group - using my photos as the base starting point.  So I am using jpg for the vast majority of images (and modifying my RAW images for the better shots).  I was relying on the visual jpg's to determine which images I was going to include in the album and expecting them to be in chronologicl order.  But as last year, 5 to !5% of them, are not in order because they have an "8" prefix.

But thinkin through what you are saying, am I correct in assuming the color representation in the camera only affects the .jpg images and NOT the RAW images.  If so, I should always shoot in sRGB and then if there is a particular picture I wish to profressionally print for my wall, then I would be processing the RAW image in that case and not caring what the color representation was in the .jpg image.

[TTMartin]

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@Zbadger wrote:

But thinkin through what you are saying, am I correct in assuming the color representation in the camera only affects the .jpg images and NOT the RAW images.  If so, I should always shoot in sRGB and then if there is a particular picture I wish to profressionally print for my wall, then I would be processing the RAW image in that case and not caring what the color representation was in the .jpg image.

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Exactly!!!

[TTMartin]

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@Zbadger wrote:

I am shooting both in RAW and jpg.  Back story:  these images are from a trip with 20 people,  I took most of the scenic and museum images - about 3000 total.  I offered like a similar trip last year to create a day by day electronic album for the entire group - using my photos as the base starting point.  So I am using jpg for the vast majority of images (and modifying my RAW images for the better shots).  I was relying on the visual jpg's to determine which images I was going to include in the album and expecting them to be in chronologicl order.  But as last year, 5 to !5% of them, are not in order because they have an "8" prefix.

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Almost every program including Windows can sort the photos by Date (and time) Taken.

[TTMartin]

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@Zbadger wrote:

Back story:  these images are from a trip with 20 people, 

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Did you ever hand your camera to someone else to take a photo so you could be in it?

If you did that person might have known just enough to put the camera in Green Square mode.

[RobertTheFat]

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@TTMartin wrote:

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@Zbadger wrote:

I am shooting both in RAW and jpg.  Back story:  these images are from a trip with 20 people,  I took most of the scenic and museum images - about 3000 total.  I offered like a similar trip last year to create a day by day electronic album for the entire group - using my photos as the base starting point.  So I am using jpg for the vast majority of images (and modifying my RAW images for the better shots).  I was relying on the visual jpg's to determine which images I was going to include in the album and expecting them to be in chronologicl order.  But as last year, 5 to !5% of them, are not in order because they have an "8" prefix.

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Almost every program including Windows can sort the photos by Date (and time) Taken.

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And while Windows doesn't make it particularly easy to assign chronological names to a large group of pictures, Canon's Digital Photo Professional (and I'm pretty sure also Lightroom and Photoshop) does. So I think you can treat the erratic naming, whatever its source, as merely a nuisance. It shouldn't be in any way a show stopper.

[Zbadger]

In response to TTMartin, Bob and all who have contributed to this thread , my thanks and hopefully my final comments and question below.

TTMartin - If I did give it to someone in green mode, it may have been once and that should not account for the 150+ pics over 10 day folders that are with an 8 prefix.  

Bob - Windows does not do a good job or chronoligically correcting the date issue - I have tried and also screwed around a bit with Bridge and Lightroom.  Have not tried DPP though for reordering items.

Lastly and most importantly, I do not want this mix of _ and 8 prefixes to happen again.  So just to confirm with everyone  --  I will change my settings in the 5D MarkIV for color space to sRGB and not worry about that at all for my .jpg images.   But if after reviewing my RAW/.jpg images, there is a great image I want to have professionally printed, I can just go to my RAW frame and process it how I wish and the RAW frame will NOT BE AFFECTED IN ANY WAY by the sRGB setting I have inputted in the color space setting within the camera menu (red section, page 2).  Correct????

[TTMartin]

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@Zbadger wrote:

Lastly and most importantly, I do not want this mix of _ and 8 prefixes to happen again.  So just to confirm with everyone  --  I will change my settings in the 5D MarkIV for color space to sRGB and not worry about that at all for my .jpg images.   But if after reviewing my RAW/.jpg images, there is a great image I want to have professionally printed, I can just go to my RAW frame and process it how I wish and the RAW frame will NOT BE AFFECTED IN ANY WAY by the sRGB setting I have inputted in the color space setting within the camera menu (red section, page 2).  Correct????

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Correct the sRBG and Adobe RGB setting is the colorspace saved in the in camera JPG, and does not impact the information saved in the RAW file.

When you process your RAW file and then save them to JPG you can then choose sRGB for screen/web JPGs, and Adobe RGB colorspace for those images you wish to print with a Adobe colorspace compatable printer.