08-24-2024 02:42 AM - edited 08-27-2024 03:25 AM
I own a Canon 20D that I got because I wanted to get into photography. My lenses are a basic kit lens and a 50mm f/1.8. I don't have a lot of $$ to spend on nice gear so I am wondering how long this camera will last before I (a complete beginner) will start to notice its age. Thanks for any help https://routerlogin.uno/ !
08-25-2024 10:52 AM - edited 08-25-2024 10:54 AM
"Like all generalizations, I personally would not take the quote too literally..."
Nonsense is more fitting than literally. There are a lot of people that own digital camera that will never take 10,000 photos and are satisfied with what they have. If it takes a person 10,000 shots before they get good images perhaps they need to find another hobby.
08-25-2024 01:49 PM
If I did, it was more tongue in cheek! 😋
08-25-2024 02:32 PM - edited 08-25-2024 03:11 PM
Well Ernie, it's a much quoted saying, but I suspect Cartier-Bresson and certainly I, was saying it with tongue in cheek or with some irony. I think the main point was that skillfully creating images using a dedicated camera, especially in the era of Cartier-Bresson, required the learning of all the skills I mentioned, plus a lot of practice.
Considering one of his most famous images, and likely the icon for his catch-phrase 'the decisive moment', his image "Outside la Gare" is an exemplar of the skills - the right shutter speed, aperture, focus, and above all, the anticipation of the right moment to freeze the subject's foot just before it splashed down. Considering he was using an early Leica camera - so manual configuration, no motor drive or even fast film advance level - his was the essential one-chance, one-shot world that you and I, who grew up with film, can relate to.
Practise is more about the pure manipulation of the camera itself. As one of my favourite photographers, the now sadly late Elliott Erwitt said "All the technique in the world doesn’t compensate for the ability to notice". He photographed a huge range from presidents to poodles, but his images were consistently engaging and often humorous.
The lately-recognized Vivian Maier was an outstanding photographer, with an amazing ability to get close to her subjects, get the verticals correct, the exposure, focus and the composition correct and achieve an outstanding keeper rate, considering she was most of the time using a square format Rolleiflex twin lens reflex camera fully manually controlled - recognized as one of the most challenging formats. According to a couple of academics who have studied her work extensively, out of a roll of 12 images, she would often score above ten outstanding ones. To them, and me, that is hugely impressive. See: Vivian Maier Presentation at Berkeley, April 2, 2014 (youtube.com) This is discussed by them at timestamp 32:20.
Definitely, it's far more than the gear.
08-26-2024 10:50 AM
"... I, was saying it with tongue in cheek or with some irony."
Oh, yes, I know you were. I was also attempting to point out the nonsense about it being 10,000.
If you really want to know the average person and their attachment to or ability and interest, you need to teach beginning digital camera classes. The forums are full of keyboard cowboys that all they do is read with no actual experience so a quote like that seems plausible.
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