10-27-2020 01:51 PM
Hello All!
I have always wanted to take on photography as a hobby but have never been able to afford it. My kids are grown and grandbabies are here so I thought now would be a great time to splurge a little and start a hobby I have always dreamed about. I am not a rich man but have given myself around a $1000 (give or take) to find a good starter camera. If I love the hobby like I think I will, I can grow in the future but for now this is a good starting point.
The main reason I am starting this hobby now is in the next 2 years I will be crusing to Alaska and Mexico, going to Hawaii and Disney World. I want to have a nice camera to capture these events as well as grandkids sporting events (13 yo, 10 yo, and 6 yo). I plan to use my camera equally for photographs and for video.
I have been researching via youtube and online courses so I know some of the basics and have a VERY general undertsanding of the terminology. At this time I am planning on either the SL3 or the M50 (leaning towards SL3 for cost reasons... want to keep them low if possible). I want to list the positive and negatives, as this newbie understands, so I know how important the pros and cons are for my situation so I can make a well educated choice.
I apolgize for this being so long but I am hoping to get myself better educated before the Black Friday sales come!
Thanks... Bubba
10-27-2020 02:14 PM - edited 10-27-2020 02:15 PM
I don't think the M50 has IBIS (image stabilization internal to the body). That is a feature of the newer R series.
I would go with the SL3. Any lenses you get (EF-S) can be used on EF-S mounts and R mounts (with an adapter). EF-M lenses can only be used on M cameras.
05-29-2023 09:13 PM - edited 05-29-2023 09:19 PM
The camera (M50) does have IBIS From an Fstoppers article. (Please note this deals with the Mark II) "If you fancy a good stabilization system, the EOS M50 won't let you down with its five-axis IBIS and digital IS. You can shoot up to 7.4 frames per second with full AF capabilities or 10 frames per second when the AF lock is activated."
05-29-2023 11:01 PM - edited 05-29-2023 11:05 PM
According to Canon's own specifications for the M50MkII, it does NOT have IBIS. It was a much speculated feature, which is where I have seen an f-Stoppers article, but that did not eventuate according to the Canon Specs page and a search of the M50II Advanced User Guide.
REF: Canon : Product Manual : EOS M50 Mark II (start.canon)
10-27-2020 04:46 PM
I think it would be better to go with a better camera and fewer lenses, compared to a lesser camera and more lenses.
You can also compare specs of two cameras on web sites like B&H, which also have a seeminlgy complete list of all of Canon's published specifications for the two cameras. I recommend this bundle as a good starter kit.
https://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/refurbished-eos-t7i-ef-s-18-55-ef-s-55-250-is-stm-bundle
But, there are better camera kits and combos out there at the next price tier, about $1250 USD.
If you select a camera bag, pick one that can hold twice the amount gear you currently have. Some bags include rain/dust covers. I like the Lowepro Nova Series of shoulder bags.
10-27-2020 10:47 PM - edited 10-27-2020 10:49 PM
Greetings,
I am not a fan of the "M" series either.
I also like the idea of buying more camera upfront.
T7i (1080p) or T8i for 4K video.
I use a Lowenpro Slingshot Edge 250BW for daily carry when out and about.
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10-30-2020 11:33 AM
I agree with Rick.
"I am not a fan of the "M" series either."
I still see the M series as a dead end and like others say it is its own lens system. However that said I also think the EF/EF-S is dead. That does make for a tough decision for today's camera buyer. I lean towards the EF/EF-S side though given that choice I doubt there will be any new EF type lenses made either so you have what you have currently available. I polished my crystal ball only this morning, too!
I would strongly recommend you handle a SL3 before you buy one, They are way too small for my liking but you may differ. I would steer you towards the 90D or Rebel T8i. The 90D is a fine camera and will always be a fine camera.
"..., I can grow in the future but for now this is a good starting point."
Sometimes a good starting point can be more expensive than buying something that will actually grow with you. That is why I am going to recommend you look at and check out one of the R series camera and lenses. If you do "love the hobby like I think I will" you will almost assuredly buy a better camera later. Buying twice? I have not checked R prices lately and I know some are more, way more, than your $1000 but this is the direction that Canon and digital cameras are going. It just may wind up the cheapest way to go.
10-31-2020 10:34 PM
"I lean towards the EF/EF-S side though given that choice I doubt there will be any new EF type lenses made either so you have what you have currently available. I polished my crystal ball only this morning, too!"
He's right. The future of EF/EF-S lenses looks grim. Canon USA no longer the EF 70-20mm f/4L USM on its' web site. I noticed that many of the consumer primes are no longer being offered, too. Get them while they're hot.
11-01-2020 08:42 AM
What are you talking about?
11-01-2020 01:32 PM - edited 11-02-2020 09:07 PM
@kvbarkley wrote:What are you talking about?
Their filters are flawed. I looked at medium telephoto lenses, and the 70-200mm lenses came up, but not the f/4.
[EDIT] I still don't see 70-200mm f/4 non-IS lens listed.
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