EOS R5/R6 launch

[John_SD]

Looking forward Canon's offical online product launch tomorrow. Photos have leaked, and it seems that the EOS R5 and R6 will both have joysticks. I am encouraged that Canon has abandoned the awful and universally panned touchbar. The R5 tech seems more geared to videographers, but that is not surprising given that so many now buy cameras to use as camcorders. Why, I don't know, but that is the trend. The R6 seems more appealing to me as someone who is more interested in photography rather than creating YouTube videos. I think there is still time to sign up for the online launch. 

[Tronhard]

I have a couple of those plus the USM version and they are remarkably good lenses for the price point!

[John_SD]

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@Tronhard wrote:
I have a couple of those plus the USM version and they are remarkably good lenses for the price point!

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Yeah, for the money and the limitations of the lens and camera, I have no complaints! I feel that I've gotten my money's worth out of the gear, and it accomplished my goal, which was get comfortable with the basics. In that regard, I am satisifed. Of course, I could be shooting with top of the line Hassleblad or Leica gear and I would only see the errors. It's good to be your own worst critic. The world has too many self-satisfied "artistes."

[Tronhard]

Yep, I can relate to that! {;-)

[Waddizzle]

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@coachboz68 wrote:

I saw on one of the Canon videos that if you are using an adapter and EF lense, you will get both IBIS and Lense IS, but that they will not "work together" as they will with RF lenses.

Just want to make sure I'm hearing this right: if you're using an EF lense with IS, you could (should?) keep it on even if also using IBIS. Does that sound correct from others' understanding?

Billy

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Hi Billy

My understanding is that lens IS works with IBIS on the Canon.  I am not sure why one would want to turn it off in that situation as you get an advantage from both, according to what I have seen - you may not get the full sum of the two IS values though.

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According to Rudy Winston's video clip, the IBIS apparently has two operating modes, depending upon whether or not you are using an RF lens or EF lens with the adapter

With an RF lens, the IBIS will work in conjunction with the IS in the lens, which will give 5-axis stabilization.  With a couple of the fast primes, you are supposed to be able to get an extra half stop of stabilization, despite the fact that the primes do not have IS.

With an EF lens, you must use the mount adapter, you will not get the same level of integration with the IS in the lens.  Instead of 5-axis stabilization, you will get horizontal or vertical panning stabilization, which will be similar to what you may get from IS Mode switches on L Series telephoto zooms

BTW, when comes to image stabilization IBS works better with wide angle lenses, while IS in the lens works better with telephoto lenses.  .

[kvbarkley]

"BTW, when comes to image stabilization IBS works better with wide angle lenses, while IS in the lens works better with telephoto lenses. "

Indeed, in any case, the IS can be tuned for that lens, which is what you really want, anyway.

[Tronhard]

Hi Bill

I hope you are keep safe and well where you are!

Given some EF lenses have no IS, that is still quite a bonus! Obviously the serious will go and re-invest in RF glass, but for those less committed, or while they make the transition, having that IBIS can't hurt.

[coachboz68]

Thanks, Kevin and @Tronhard.  

[coachboz68]

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@Waddizzle wrote:

According to Rudy Winston's video clip, the IBIS apparently has two operating modes, depending upon whether or not you are using an RF lens or EF lens with the adapter (snip)

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Thanks, Wadizzle, for the explanation of what the true "cooperation" will entail. 

[ScottS]

Tronhard has great follow-up questions, but his video clip kinda says it all wrt the image quality of the 20MP sensor. 

I suppose the only time it might matter is if you need a serious crop on landscape photography where you want the heavily cropped image to retain extreme detail. I'm not a landscape photographer, so I don't know that for sure, though. And even there, not sure how many times that's needed. 

I've done some heavy cropping of sports shots from my 1DX II (20MP) shot at high ISO and not one person has ever said: "Wish I had some more detail in this pic."  So in most of your environments that you list above where you can control lighting and framing, hard to imagine it would be an issue. But one's personal needs/preference is what matters for such things. 

I appreciate this share. I do take photos on my India travels, and many times it IS of mountain landscapes. I would hate to lose 10 megapixels of info for possible larger images. But for my portrait photography, it sounds like the R6 could work.

Decisions...

Thanks for your input! 

[ScottS]

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@coachboz68 wrote:

Tronhard has great follow-up questions, but his video clip kinda says it all wrt the image quality of the 20MP sensor. 

I suppose the only time it might matter is if you need a serious crop on landscape photography where you want the heavily cropped image to retain extreme detail. I'm not a landscape photographer, so I don't know that for sure, though. And even there, not sure how many times that's needed. 

I've done some heavy cropping of sports shots from my 1DX II (20MP) shot at high ISO and not one person has ever said: "Wish I had some more detail in this pic."  So in most of your environments that you list above where you can control lighting and framing, hard to imagine it would be an issue. But one's personal needs/preference is what matters for such things. 

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I appreciate this share. I do take photos on my India travels, and many times it IS of mountain landscapes. I would hate to lose 10 megapixels of info for possible larger images. But for my portrait photography, it sounds like the R6 could work.

Decisions...

Thanks for your input!