10-06-2024 07:10 PM - last edited on 10-08-2024 09:02 AM by Danny
Hi all,
Thanks in advance for any advice you have offer. I have the Canon 2000D and I’m looking to upgrade to a body that gives me better quality photos and more customisation as I want to continue my journey and experiment.
I have the following lenses and I would ideally like to keep them and use them on the new body
Zoom EF-5 18-55mm 1:3.5 - 5.6 IS II
Zoom EF-5 55-250mm 1:4-5.6 IS STM
EF Lens 50mm 1:1.8 STM
but need some advice on what body to upgrade to that will allow me to use my lenses. I only use it for stills so don’t need something with excellent video quality. My 2000D is in excellent condition so would be looking to trade in. Ideally my price range is around €1000-€1500 ($1,100 - $1600) but willing to go a little higher.
Many thanks!
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10-06-2024 08:25 PM - edited 10-06-2024 08:27 PM
Hi and welcome!
The DSLR platform is just about dead now, and the main effort and new developments for both bodies and lenses are with the R-series Mirrorless Interchangeable Camera (MILC) platform. The camera you have is an APS-C crop-sensor model, so it would make sense to choose a similar style camera on that platform.
The R-series bodies are a major step up from what you are using. They have much better sensors and processors, they have face and eye detect and tracking and the top-end ones have In-Body Image Stabilization (IBIS) that enhances the stabilization from some lenses to make hand-holding even better in low light or with long FL lenses.
The models I would suggest you consider would be the R7, R10 and R50. There is a R100, but it is not as good as your current camera for multiple reasons. I personally prefer the R10 of the bunch as it has a sensor with fewer MP and that means it works better in low light and it also will focus and track better than the higher MP R7.
You can use your current EF and EF-S lenses on those bodies with no issues via the Canon EF-RF adapter.
https://www.usa.canon.com/shop/p/refurbished-mount-adapter-ef-eos-r
You can browse the current selection of bodies from Canon's Refurbished shot, which offers over-stock but new, open box but unused, demo or show units 'good as new' with a Canon warranty, and some savings:
Canon Mirrorless APS-C Refurbished Cameras There is a good deal with the F10 and the excellent walk-around lens the RF 18-150mm. This is a native lens for the R platform and does not require an adapter.
If you really want to move up a level, consider selling your existing camera and the two EF-S lenses so you can fund the following full-frame cameras:
https://www.usa.canon.com/shop/p/refurbished-eos-r6-mark-ii-body (you can be notified when available)
This is a prosumer body - superior build, weather sealing, IBIS, top of the line focus and Face-tracking, high end sensor with excelling ISO performance and top-end processor. It's controls are highly customizable and it will perform well with future high-end RF lenses.
Pair that with the excellent RF 24-240 IS USM super-zoom lens and you will have a serious kit that can be expanded later with RF glass.
https://www.usa.canon.com/shop/p/refurbished-rf24-240mm-f4-6-3-is-usm
Here are some sample images with that lens on R6 bodies. For most of your photography, this would be a single lens that does a lot, very well.
One Test of a RF 24-240 Super Zoom Lens - Does it ... - Canon Community
Moody Morning the the R6 & RF 24-240 - Canon Community
Trying out the RF 24-240 on Wildlife with the R5 - Page 2 - Canon Community
I love this lens and it punches way above its price point.
10-06-2024 07:21 PM
Do you want to stay with APS-C or move to Full Frame. Your lenses can be adapted to the EOS R series. Note older lenses DO NOT fully support the highly advanced AF system of the EOS R series. A lot of older lenses have AF motors that are simply to slow to keep up. They don't have the necessary hardware to support it.
10-06-2024 08:25 PM - edited 10-06-2024 08:27 PM
Hi and welcome!
The DSLR platform is just about dead now, and the main effort and new developments for both bodies and lenses are with the R-series Mirrorless Interchangeable Camera (MILC) platform. The camera you have is an APS-C crop-sensor model, so it would make sense to choose a similar style camera on that platform.
The R-series bodies are a major step up from what you are using. They have much better sensors and processors, they have face and eye detect and tracking and the top-end ones have In-Body Image Stabilization (IBIS) that enhances the stabilization from some lenses to make hand-holding even better in low light or with long FL lenses.
The models I would suggest you consider would be the R7, R10 and R50. There is a R100, but it is not as good as your current camera for multiple reasons. I personally prefer the R10 of the bunch as it has a sensor with fewer MP and that means it works better in low light and it also will focus and track better than the higher MP R7.
You can use your current EF and EF-S lenses on those bodies with no issues via the Canon EF-RF adapter.
https://www.usa.canon.com/shop/p/refurbished-mount-adapter-ef-eos-r
You can browse the current selection of bodies from Canon's Refurbished shot, which offers over-stock but new, open box but unused, demo or show units 'good as new' with a Canon warranty, and some savings:
Canon Mirrorless APS-C Refurbished Cameras There is a good deal with the F10 and the excellent walk-around lens the RF 18-150mm. This is a native lens for the R platform and does not require an adapter.
If you really want to move up a level, consider selling your existing camera and the two EF-S lenses so you can fund the following full-frame cameras:
https://www.usa.canon.com/shop/p/refurbished-eos-r6-mark-ii-body (you can be notified when available)
This is a prosumer body - superior build, weather sealing, IBIS, top of the line focus and Face-tracking, high end sensor with excelling ISO performance and top-end processor. It's controls are highly customizable and it will perform well with future high-end RF lenses.
Pair that with the excellent RF 24-240 IS USM super-zoom lens and you will have a serious kit that can be expanded later with RF glass.
https://www.usa.canon.com/shop/p/refurbished-rf24-240mm-f4-6-3-is-usm
Here are some sample images with that lens on R6 bodies. For most of your photography, this would be a single lens that does a lot, very well.
One Test of a RF 24-240 Super Zoom Lens - Does it ... - Canon Community
Moody Morning the the R6 & RF 24-240 - Canon Community
Trying out the RF 24-240 on Wildlife with the R5 - Page 2 - Canon Community
I love this lens and it punches way above its price point.
10-07-2024 06:10 PM
Hi Trevor, thank you so much for your reply. I just looked up the R6 on your recommendation. It looks like it’s hits all the points I’m looking for. Would you recommend the leap? How have you found the longevity of it? If I know it’s going to last then I’ll make the jump. Might get a lense or two also if you have recommendations from your favourites!
10-07-2024 06:47 PM - edited 10-07-2024 10:06 PM
Thanks for your response and appreciation.
I would absolutely recommend the leap, but realize you will have to put the hours in to fully realize and master the complexities to achieve the benefits that come with the new tech. If you do that, you shall be richly rewarded.
I have both R6 variants, in fact 2x R6 and 1x R6II, (as well as an R5): both R6 variants are built to take the punishment that professionals mete out to cameras, and many working pro's use an R5 with an R6 variant as their second unit, which says something.
As to lenses... Currently, you have the 18-55 and 55-250 - on a crop sensor they have a Field of View (what is recorded by the sensor) equivalent to that from a 29-400mm lens of a FF camera.
There are two ways of approaching this.
You could go for the RF 24-105 (recommend the L f/4 variant) and add to that the RF 100-400 IS USM or, for a greater price, the absolutely awesome RF 100-500L. Going for L glass is not cheap, but the camera will be up to that level of optic, and glass is the longer-term investment. But, budget is a thing...
Alternatively, I definitely think you could take advantage of the excellent RF 24-240 IS USM which is going to give you much the same focal range (especially that the lower end) as your two current lenses, but in one unit. You already have links to some images taken with this lens to consider.
If you are interested in wildlife and really want reach, then the brilliant RF 200-800 IS USM is another great unit.
I have also shared images on this site on that lens:
First Shots with the RF 200-800 and the R6II - Page 2 - Canon Community
Shooting with the Rf 200-800 and R6 - Page 2 - Canon Community
Shooting the Moon with the RF 200-800 - Canon Community
A Few Shots with the R5 and RF 200-800 - Canon Community
Here is a more recent shot of the almost full moon:
Again, look to the Canon Refurb site, although with the shortage of RF 200-800 units in the US, I suspect any that turn up there will be gone in an flash!
10-07-2024 07:21 PM
"I just looked up the R6...Might get a lense or two also..."
This configuration is way outside your stated budget of $1100-$1600. Also, I saw no R6 or R6 II currently available in the refurbished store. Best of luck, whatever you decide.
10-08-2024 03:09 AM
I’m based in Ireland so my local camera shops have options for the R6 new and or refurbed luckily!
My original budget was based on getting a DSLR or entry Mirrorless but looking at it it’s worth more investment to get a workhorse that has more longevity.
10-08-2024 11:32 AM
Definitely, you get what you pay for with the FF bodies, and the R6 variants are excellent value. If you are tight on budget, then see if you can find a good R6 - I still shoot with a couple of them and they are excellent units. Since you are in Ireland I would suggest looking at MPB or KEH websites as they sell used gear that is rated and comes with a warranty.
10-19-2024 01:01 PM
Just wanted to say thank you again for all the recommendations and time you spent answering. Went into my local shop today and traded in my 2000D and some lenses for (a small amount) of money off the R6 Mk II with the 24-105 F4 L kit lense. The owner uses it as his go to and showed me some of his work and between that and your advice it sold me on it. Worth the investment, I can’t wait to do some shoots! Thank you from Ireland!
10-19-2024 01:17 PM
You are welcome. I am originally Irish myself, being born in Belfast. My family moved to NZ when I was about 10 and I am sad to say I have not been back since, but I still have a soft spot for the place.
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