Canon mirrorless camera suggestions

[Babemgnet]

I would like to see a Mirrorless camera, with 45MP, Face and eye focus tracking, manual shutter, no video at all for professional still photographers, and sports photographers.  Cut the cost. Maybe the R1?  If you want video an R1C?

As a news paper Photographer I don't use, need, or want video.  I do sports photography and would want a fast shutter speed, and face and eye tracking.  I own two 90D's and they're o.k. I also own a 5d Markii, great for still portraits but not for sports.  I still use my 40D, and D60 for fire scene photographs. The R3 would be nice, but, the cost is a bit much, and only 24MP.  Full frame all the bells and whistles for still work no video.  Thanks.

[Tronhard]

"I wonder if Canon will ever bring back an APS-H like what was in several 1D series cameras"

I suspect that format is unlikely to find a significant market and with an already limited marketspace, I think they will concentrate on FF and APS-C formats - for a very limited market developing the tech for modern APS-H sensors etc. is unlikely to be economic.

[deebatman316]

Well FF is quite expensive even when Canon released the first 1D series. So I guess Canon's compromise was APS-H.

40D, 5D IV, EF 16-35mm F/2.8L III, EF 24-70mm F/2.8L II, EF 28-135mm, EF 50 F/1.8 STM

[Tronhard]

The relationship between market structure, technology and economics have changed a lot since the early days.  Absolutely, a FF sensor costs more to produce, and that is why APS-C cameras are at a lower price point.  However, it is questionable that Canon would embark on the cost for development for a 1.3 factor crop sensor at this stage of a, now mature, market.

[jrhoffman75]

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@deebatman316 wrote:

I wonder if Canon will ever bring back an APS-H like what was in several 1D series cameras.

40D, 5D IV, EF 16-35mm F/2.8L III, EF 24-70mm F/2.8L II, EF 28-135mm, EF 50 F/1.8 STM

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Is the rationale for why APS-H was introduced still relevant today?

[AtticusLake]

I don't believe it is.  Like the article says, FF sensors were once very expensive, and APS-H was a compromise which allowed camera mfrs to get close to it.  Remember that back in the early days, there was a lot of thrashing about on sensor sizes -- no-one knew what the standards would turn out to be.  And it matters, because if you are making or buying lenses, you need to know what size image circle they should cover.

Nowadays, the standards have clearly settled to APS-C (and S-35) and FF.  APS-H is too close to both of them to be worth it.  It would be like printing a $4 bill.

[Tronhard]

I have a lot of sympathy for your point of view, as I too am a stills-only photographer. Given that a lot of the economics depend on volume, I doubt that Canon will make a stills-only body because that will limit their sales. 

Back in 2013, Nikon made the Df, a stills-only camera that was also a tribute to the original SLRs from the 1970-80 period. It was a brilliant camera (I still have, and shoot with two of them), using the flagship D4's FF processor that gave outstanding low light performance.  They got serious grief from people who didn't understand the real purpose of the camera, and moaned that it didn't have video. 

I realize you are not seeking a legacy-type interface, but it is telling that in releasing a similarly-themed MILC, in the form of the Zfc, Nikon did include video this time, and it has been a great seller - so it appears the interface was not the critical factor.

[shadowsports]

@BabesMagnet,

What AtticusLake and Waddizzle states is true.  No stills only cameras are coming.  You get fries with that burger.  You get video now, like it or not.  The R1 will have more that the R3's 24MP.  It might not be 85MP, But its going to cost an arm and a leg (with certainty).  We may get one more RF body similar to a 5DSR but when and how much is anyones guess.  I don't expect it would be under the R5's pricepoint. 

The R5 is a great camera for stills.  Just don't shoot video and it won't catch fire on you.  It will likely dip in price this christmas and even more if you go refurb. 

Frankly I cannot believe the price for the R5 C went up $300 after I got mine, but it did.    I think its a bit of a reach personally.  That's got to have pissed some people off.  If you have a working system, I'd wait until the end of year before doing anything.  

[Tronhard]

Price increased for almost everything seem to be standard across the board.  It's another fallout from the chaos wrought on production and logistics by COVID, and even climate change - this morning, I was reading how many factories are shutting down to save energy and water, as China suffers its worst heat wave on record.   There is some relief coming, but this kind of thing is going to be an issue for the future.  Over here, an R5 body only now costs about $6,700NZ - and that's what we earn, so there is no exchange rate to consider for u.