04-18-2017 03:11 PM
04-19-2017 10:55 AM
Hmmm, Rebel T7i.
04-19-2017 12:09 PM
Of course it has "in-camera stabilization", in fact it has 5-axis stabilization ... when making videos. The 80d has no in-camera stabilization. And why do you say it's a stripped down 80d? Dude, be proud, with the Digic 7 processor it's the latest technology. Think about it, a focus system equal to the 80d but pushed by a FASTER processor. Have you tried a burst shot yet? It can take more RAW shots, or lots more .JPG without filling up the buffer. The ISO range has been increased, and it's lighter. Have you tried the Bluetooth yet with Canon Camera connect? The 80d doesn't have Bluetooth.
Are there reasons to buy the 80d over the 77d? Oh yes sir there is!
Hey, I got off base here, what about the battery grip? That's what I came here to find out. Call me old fashioned but I'm trying to support my nearest brick and mortar store so I'm waiting till they have the 77d available to buy it there. Should be this weekend. But PLEASE tell me a battery grip will be available.
04-19-2017 12:45 PM
From everything I can tell, the 77D is the next-gen T6s in the same way that the T7i is the next-gen T6i.
Conrol layouts, top LCD, etc. are all reminiscent of the T6s.
As for the image stabilization... the reference I find in the specs is that it has "elecronic" movie image stabilization. This doesn't sound like a mechanical IS feature... it sounds like software image stabilization (many video processing applications for your computer will allow you to apply stabilization in post processing).
04-19-2017 12:51 PM
I was going to say the same thing. From the website:
"Camera shake is inevitable at times, whether you’re ready to record the game-winning goal while running to keep up with the players, or when the landscape is epic but you’re riding in the car on a bumpy road. Movie Electronic IS^^^ helps minimize image blur due to shake, even when recording Full HD videos. When enabled and used with a compatible lens, 5-axis stabilization helps minimize image blur in the horizontal, vertical, and rotational planes."
Looks like a hybrid mechanical/electronic IS system that uses the lens IS in combination with shifting/rotating the sensor image electronically taking advantage or the reduced movie resolution compared to the full resolution of the sensor.
Not quite 'meh', but not "5 axis stabilization", either.
04-19-2017 01:42 PM
The "When enabled and use with a compatible lens" really sounds like they're saying the IS in the lens does it job (as it always would so long as you enable it) and they'll apply some further shake-reduction via in-camera firmware (including some digital de-rotation if you rotate the camera like a steering wheel while shooting.)
04-19-2017 09:29 PM
Correcting for anti-shake in post processing can be very time consuming. Also, sometimes I want to show off my stupid dog on Facebook right away.
I could copy my video to my computer, import into PowerDirector, apply video stabilizer at the default, then test to determine optimum setting, check rotational camera shake, then determine if enhanced stabilizer is required, then create output file.
Or, I could use the IBIS (5-axis stabilization) and do it on the fly.
OK, my point is the 77d has "stabilization" for video that the 80d doesn't have. I didn't say it was great thing to have, just that it was there.
So, can we get back to the battery grip? That's why I'm here! Why would they think a battery that last only 270-600 shots is acceptable? Geez...
04-20-2017 06:31 AM
@AR15_Dude wrote:Correcting for anti-shake in post processing can be very time consuming. Also, sometimes I want to show off my stupid dog on Facebook right away.
I could copy my video to my computer, import into PowerDirector, apply video stabilizer at the default, then test to determine optimum setting, check rotational camera shake, then determine if enhanced stabilizer is required, then create output file.
Or, I could use the IBIS (5-axis stabilization) and do it on the fly.
OK, my point is the 77d has "stabilization" for video that the 80d doesn't have. I didn't say it was great thing to have, just that it was there.
So, can we get back to the battery grip? That's why I'm here! Why would they think a battery that last only 270-600 shots is acceptable? Geez...
The small battery is first thing that I noticed about the 77D. The camera was introduced with the T7i and the M5. They all use the same battery. I can see sharing the same battery with a Rebel and the M Series, but not what I think of as medium size camera bodies.
If Canon does not introduce a battery grip, then I'm sure a 3rd party may do so. Just be aware of why Canon probably did not introduce a battery grip for a Rebel T5. The battery compartment does not have control connections for remote shutter control.
04-20-2017 08:39 AM
04-20-2017 10:04 AM
04-20-2017 10:47 AM
Words matter. You do not have IBIS. You have to have a particular lens with IS in order to use the video stabilization. THE SENSOR DOES NOT PARTICIPATE. (Which is the definition of IBIS) The rest is digic.
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