6D Mark ii- Are the owners satisfied? I backed away from it based on the bad internet reviews....

[secondlevel]

I backed away from buying the new 6D Mark ii based on all the negative reviews that it received.  However, yesterday I saw the DXO scores and the camera did ok.  That made me start to wonder if I was missing something. Can really produce a usable image at ISO 40,000?

I currenly own a 60D, 77D, and the original 6D.  I feel I have most situations that I encounter covered with these models.  Nevertheless, with the cost down on it and I already have lens and flashes I wonder  about it.  I would only need the body.

[Waddizzle]

"For those having issues, you can use System Restore to go back to an earlier date, point in time prior to having issues.  This will resolve any recent conflicts you might have had with a windows update.  I would refrain from going back to an earlier build of the OS. "

I found some time to do a reinstall, and that fixed the problem.  Convert and saves of 20MP files takes a few seconds again.

[shadowsports]

Glad you figured it out. 

I re-read the article and thread, then went back and reviewed the settings on both menus in the camera.  The fine PIc Style was there.  The default styles are all editable, and the menu includes 3 custom options that can be configured from scratch.  I would still like it if I could use the EOS Utility to add non canon lens profiles to the camera for later use in DPP, but I know this will never happen.  I suppose this is why so many here use LR. 

[ebiggs1]

"...the difference between a FF camera and an APS-C camera"

Robert,

Only when anyone seems to make it the sole reason to select one over the other.  If it is your goal is to have a FF, I suppose it is OK.  But when you choose it over the better choice just because it is FF, it is not. Some people, mostly because of the ole inner web, think if they only had a FF camera all their photographic issues would be solved.

THE REASON to buy a 6d2 over and 80D is FF, I don't think so. Of course that is IMHO as always.

[Waddizzle]

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@shadowsports wrote:

Glad you figured it out. 

I re-read the article and thread, then went back and reviewed the settings on both menus in the camera.  The fine PIc Style was there.  The default styles are all editable, and the menu includes 3 custom options that can be configured from scratch.  I would still like it if I could use the EOS Utility to add non canon lens profiles to the camera for later use in DPP, but I know this will never happen.  I suppose this is why so many here use LR. 

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Being able to work with third party lenses was THE single reason that made me take a first look at Lightroom.  After seeing what all that LR could do, I took a second look.  By the time I took a third look, I was using it. 

[Waddizzle]

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@ebiggs1 wrote:

"...the difference between a FF camera and an APS-C camera"

Robert,

Only when anyone seems to make it the sole reason to select one over the other.  If it is your goal is to have a FF, I suppose it is OK.  But when you choose it over the better choice just because it is FF, it is not. Some people, mostly because of the ole inner web, think if they only had a FF camera all their photographic issues would be solved.

THE REASON to buy a 6d2 over and 80D is FF, I don't think so. Of course that is IMHO as always.

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Why is an ASP-C EOS 80D better than a FF EOS 6D Mark II?  

I have used both.  The 80D is a very good camera, but so is the 6D Mark II.  With one exception, every feature found in the 80D can be found in the 6D Mark II, plus a few features that the 80D does not have.  AFAIK, the lone exception is maximum shutter speed: 1/8000 for the 80D; 1/4000 for the 6D2.

[RobertTheFat]

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@Waddizzle wrote:

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@ebiggs1 wrote:

"...the difference between a FF camera and an APS-C camera"

Robert,

Only when anyone seems to make it the sole reason to select one over the other.  If it is your goal is to have a FF, I suppose it is OK.  But when you choose it over the better choice just because it is FF, it is not. Some people, mostly because of the ole inner web, think if they only had a FF camera all their photographic issues would be solved.

THE REASON to buy a 6d2 over and 80D is FF, I don't think so. Of course that is IMHO as always.

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Why is an ASP-C EOS 80D better than a FF EOS 6D Mark II?  

I have used both.  The 80D is a very good camera, but so is the 6D Mark II.  With one exception, every feature found in the 80D can be found in the 6D Mark II, plus a few features that the 80D does not have.  AFAIK, the lone exception is maximum shutter speed: 1/8000 for the 80D; 1/4000 for the 6D2.

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One of the consequences of a FF camera it a larger frame size, which means the shutter blades have farther to travel. For a given power draw and/or spring loading, a faster shutter speed is achievable if the frame is smaller.

[ebiggs1]

"Why is an ASP-C EOS 80D better than a FF EOS 6D Mark II?"

Just for starters how about price?  See you guys that see FF first don't see the whole picture!  Sorry I know bad pun.

[Waddizzle]

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@ebiggs1 wrote:

"Why is an ASP-C EOS 80D better than a FF EOS 6D Mark II?"

Just for starters how about price?  See you guys that see FF first don't see the whole picture!  Sorry I know bad pun.

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Price.  By your logic, an EOS 5D Mark IV is a bad idea, too.  Forget about anything in the 1D series.  In fact, why don’t you go for a PowerShot Elph Series, if price is the starting point.

[secondlevel]

Thank you everyone for the replies. However, we are getting off topic. My question concerns the new 6D. Full frame vs Crop isn’t an concern.

[Waddizzle]

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@secondlevel wrote:
Thank you everyone for the replies. However, we are getting off topic. My question concerns the new 6D. Full frame vs Crop isn’t an concern.

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I agree.  But, your original post stated that you had initially passed on the 6D2, and wanted to give it a second look.  You asked what, if anything, is good about a 6D2.  

Personally, I think there are a number of advantages of a 6D2.  Ernie seems to have a counter argument, which is a rather negative opinion of the 6D and the 6D2.  I would encourage you to let him explain the rationale behind his beliefs.