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MaziarKia · ‎04-20-2013

Hello everyone,my first post here.

I've been taking pics w/point to shoot cameras for years now and since the DSLR camera's have become a little cheaper,I'm deciding to buy one.

I've been searching a lot and found these 2 but I'm having hard time deciding which one to get. I've heard that 60D has overall better build quality,better grip and better battery life;whereas,650D has a touch screen,and does better in video recording.
I honestly don't care much about video and my main usage is photgraphy(In which I've heard these 2 perform pretty much the same)

So,which one do you guys recommend?

Thanks and sorry for the long post

Skirball · ‎04-23-2013

@fpcadiente wrote:
If I'm not mistake, it also has a bigger view finder than any rebel.

It does, but it's .59X vs .53X

FYI, and for the OP: when comparing different camera models I it helpful to do a search for "Canon 60D vs 650D". The first couple of links will be for automated websites that compare the specs of the two models. I use snapsort because it's the first, but they're all the same. They don't give you detailed information, and I've seen the occasional small discrepancy, but I find it a quick and easy way to compare specs between models.

http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon-EOS-650D-vs-Canon_EOS_60D

MaziarKia · ‎04-24-2013

Thanks guys

Still haven't had a chance to test both cameras in a store,but I'll hopefully do that tomorrow.

Another question,should I even bother with the 18-55 lens ? Because I've heard 18-135 STM is "Much" better,is that right ? Getting either 60D or 650D w/18-135 is definitely out of my budget but I may be able to stretch my budget if necessary.Thoughts ?

Skirball · ‎04-24-2013

It's not profoundly better no, mostly it just offers more range.

If you don’t intend on getting a longer telephoto (like the 55-250) to accompany the 18-55, then yes, I’d get the 18-135 instead. If you’d rather leave one lens on than swap out lenses for the specific task at hand then get the 135. If you like to travel light then get the 135.

On the flip side, the 18-55 is going to give slightly better performance over that range than the 18-135. Mostly I’d expect you’d just get a lot of distortion on the wide side of the 18-135, which is typical of these ‘super zooms’. Not that the 18-55 won’t have some distortion as well. Distortion can be corrected in post, and it doesn’t always look terrible depending on what kind of subject you’re shooting, but it’s worth pointing out. In general though, I’d expect the IQ to be similar for these two lenses.

The one issue I might have, is that the manual focus on the 18-135 STM is electronic. Meaning you move the ring and it electronically zooms in and out. Moving it more doesn’t make it go quicker. I have no idea how fast it goes, but the quickness of zooming in and out is one of the reasons why I shoot SLR. On the flip side, if you shoot video, this function is smooth and quiet.

MaziarKia · ‎04-24-2013

Thanks again for your reply

Well,since this is my first DSLR,I was thinking about 60D/650D + 18-55 to play and get used to it for sometime then get a bigger lense(like 55-250);on the other hand,if I get the 18-135,I won't be able to upgrade for some time because of it's cost.

So it seems 18-155 isn't very bad afterall,because someone told me it's a waste to pair it with either of those cameras

fpcadiente · ‎04-24-2013

I suggest get the EF 17-85mm or even the newer version EF15-85mm.
Sharper and faster AF

MaziarKia · ‎04-25-2013

@fpcadiente wrote:
I suggest get the EF 17-85mm or even the newer version EF15-85mm.
Sharper and faster AF

They're both out my price range.

I tried both 60D and 650D today and both felt very nice in hand,making my decision even harder lol

Anyway,should I go with 18-55 + 55-250 or 18-135 ? The first bundle is a little bit cheaper,thoughts ?

Justin · ‎04-26-2013

I recently was deciding between the 650D (T4i) and the 60D.

The 650D has been out for a short while and has already had one recall because of the grips. Was it built with other poor quality materials? Canon has recently come out with the 700D (T5i) and there is very few new features on it. I wonder if the 650D had too many problems and Canon just pulled the plug on that model and came out with a new one to replace it.

Don't get me wrong I love the features that the 650D had, espically the touch screen, but the menus are easy enough to manage without it. Plus I wouldn't want to be touching the screen all the time and possibly damaging it.

The 60D has been out for a while and I have heard nothing but good things about it. For it to be out for that long and have few complaints tells me it has a good track record. It may be outdated, but whatever camera you decide on will be outdated in a short while anyway. It is a very solid camera, and the 650D feels like a toy after handling the 60D.

Costco currently has a $200 off of the 60D that comes with a bag and the 18-200mm lens instead of the 135mm lens. Thats the camera I chose.

Justin

Skirball · ‎04-27-2013

@Justin wrote:
I recently was deciding between the 650D (T4i) and the 60D.

The 650D has been out for a short while and has already had one recall because of the grips. Was it built with other poor quality materials? Canon has recently come out with the 700D (T5i) and there is very few new features on it. I wonder if the 650D had too many problems and Canon just pulled the plug on that model and came out with a new one to replace it.

Just to play Devil's advocate: the 5d3, their flagship for Canon fanboys worldwide, has had some reports of similar material problems. No recall from Canon as far as I know, but they usually wait until they have to to issue a recall. Product recalls happen, it's just a part of manufacturing, it doesn't necessarily mean a bad product.

I believe the 700D was released without any upgrades because Canon can decided to do annual revisions of the Rebel line, regardless if they've actually developed something new or not. I believe the only additions was an embossed dial that can rotate 360 degrees? Heh. I think the texture changed too, which may have something to do with this material issue, but Canon could just as easily change the texture/material on the 650D and still call it a 650D.