02-05-2023 05:21 AM - last edited on 02-07-2023 09:59 AM by Danny
Hi all,
I have a Canon 90D as a backup camera for shooting real estate (main body is a 5D MkIV). I use a 16-35 lens.
Due to the crop sensor on the 90D, the FOV is frustrating, so I want to try and increase this and am thinking about a 12mm zero distortion lens (e.g. a Laowa).
Has anyone tried this and what were the results?
02-05-2023 07:57 AM - edited 02-05-2023 08:46 AM
Greetings,
Most obvious question. Why not shoot with the 16~35 on the 5D4. You are trading one problem for another.
Laowa 12mm FOV 122*
Canon 16-35 FOV 112*
The moment you put either on a APS-C body, the FOV equivalent becomes 19.2mm. Personally, I feel there is a fine line when shooting home interiors for real estate. Small rooms are just that, small. How wide is too wide? The Laowa is not perfect, "close-to-zero optical distortion" so inevitably post processing is going to be needed to correct images shot under less than ideal conditions. I know what agents have to go through. Homes with no drapes, blown out or inadequate lighting, etc. If you are going to shoot with the Laowa, I would do it on your 5D4 if you want the 122* FOV.
If shooting on the 90D is mandatory, you can get 107* using Canon's 10~18 or 10~22. What are you using for post production? I don't know about Lr, but DxO has a dedicated application called Viewpoint which corrects geometry. If you use Canon lenses DPP supports geometry correction. Hope this provides some additional perspective and options.
~Rick
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02-05-2023 10:53 AM
Boy before I would consider the Laowa lens I would simply check out and buy the old standby EF-S 18-55mm f/4-5.6 IS STM.
Plus, if I were you I would also look at Rokinon 14mm F2.8 ED AS IF UMC, too. The Rokinon is super sharp! And at a third of the cost.
02-05-2023 11:14 AM - edited 02-05-2023 11:16 AM
I think the Canon EF-S 10-18mm STM would be great for interior photos on a 90D. It is reasonably priced, and is pretty sharp with very little distortion. Plus, it would be even wider than the Laowa 12mm.
02-05-2023 11:20 AM - edited 02-05-2023 11:28 AM
Ernie,
All true. I'm not sure if the 18~55 will offer the FOV he desires? I have the Rokinon 12mm. I thought you have the 14mm? Didn't I see some pics from you on B&H's website? The 12mm Rokinon does 180* and would require geometry correction for real estate.
~Rick
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02-05-2023 12:01 PM
I do agree with Rick the EF-S 18-55mm lens lineup is simply NOT wide enough for real estate work. The EF-S 10-18mm F/4.5-5.6 IS STM would be a better choice for this application. I can't say how good the the EF-S 10-18mm F/4.5-5.6 IS STM lens is because I've never owned or used this lens before. I used to own the EF-S 10-22mm F/3.5-4.5 USM lens and it was plenty wide enough. But the EF-S 10-22mm F/3.5-4.5 USM comes with a price tag though because the lens has a Ring Type USM AF motor. I have since donated this lens to a friend who has an APS-C camera. I replaced this lens with the EF 16-35mm F/2.8L III USM lens when I went Full Frame.
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02-05-2023 11:52 AM
Rick,
The thing you need to remember is this EF-S 18-55mm f/4-5.6 IS STM will do 90% of what is needed for real estate photography. Yes, likely, there will be some times where it isn't wide enough. It is a readily available lens that will offer more versatile use besides real estate work. The Rokinon 14mm F2.8 ED AS IF UMC is a fantastic inexpensive lens that could fill that gap when needed. I was keeping the mention of distortion in mind since the OP mentioned the Laowa. I also like Mike's suggestion of the Canon EF-S 10-18mm STM
My mother's side aunt and uncle were real estate agents and I did work for them way back in the dark ages in Rockville with Wilma and Fred and Bam-bam. The fact is you don't need an UWA all the time. Times you will however. I had my Argus C3, a Kodak Retina IIIC and later a Canon F1n and a 28mm f2.8 lens.
Give me a good tripod and Photoshop and I could do it all with a 50mil. 😁
02-05-2023 11:54 AM
BTW, both the Argus C3, a Kodak Retina IIIC had 35mm lens adapters for the standard 50mm lens.
02-06-2023 10:13 AM
"... the EF-S 18-55mm lens lineup is simply NOT wide enough for real estate work."
Done a lot of real estate work have you? It's probably best to comment on stuff you have actually done.
02-06-2023 05:27 PM
I've done a little real estate photography. My dad was a real estate agent. He and I mainly used the EF-S 10-22mm F/3.5-4.5 USM lens and the EOS 40D together. That worked well for us.
-Demetrius
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